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Anonymous wrote:Good grief. This thread is over the top.

Just an observation - it is NOT the MAGA types causing mayhem in LA or NY or Dallas.

It’s ICE. And the last time I checked, the identity of the people who set the car fires wasn’t known. Given that despite extreme provocation, the protests have been largely peaceful, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that MAGA supporters were trying to light a powder keg.

Like they did in Racine, Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles and DC in 2020?

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Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone seem to think there would only be killing by MAGAs? I know plenty of Progressives who would be willing to do some killing. They’re not going to start the war, but once it’s started, they’re all-in.

These people are serious, too. They know Carlos hand to hand fighting disciplines and martial arts, they are experts with knives and edged weapons, they can improvise booby traps. They’d be able to take out MAGAs like they were squishing bugs.

Don't kid yourself. These "progressives" who love to use political issues as an excuse to mix it up with the police and throw Molotov cocktails could easily start a war. Democrats are putting the whole country at risk justifying such behavior.

progressives are usually kumbaya type people. The people who throw molotov cocktails are anarchists and use any excuse to be violent.

Yes, and Democrats have been giving them political and media cover for a long time because SO FAR, their violence is directed at the Democrats' enemies. Americans refuse to learn from the countless examples in history of how easy it is to lose control of violent groups.

Right, and who was it who stormed the capital and killed police officers?

That was MAGA. Which side's protesters caused violence and arson during the 2020 riots? That was the left. We could play this moronic game all day or you could get your partisan head out of your ass and realize that any large scale act of political violence can be the match that sets this whole country ablaze. Condemn all violence or live to see your luck run out.

Nope. the left was protesting. It was right wingers who used the cover of the protest to start the vandalism and killings. Google it.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief. This thread is over the top.

Just an observation - it is NOT the MAGA types causing mayhem in LA or NY or Dallas.

It's ICE. And we have Stephen Miller screaming at ICE to meet quotas because MAGA voted in TACO again.

ICE is not burning cars and throwing rocks and bricks and looting businesses and throwing Molotov cocktails and destroying buildings.

No, they are just masking up and kidnapping people. And the public is fed up with it and showing their displeasure.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I do. I don't think it's most, but enough MAGA people seem itching for a fight that I've gone out and gotten a gun and learned to shoot it. I'm not interested in being a sitting duck should the time come because I stupidly took the stance of "it could never happen here." No, it absolutely could happen here, just as it has happened elsewhere throughout history.

What did you get, if you are willing to share? I’ve just started browsing online.

My husband is a super liberal democrat but he too is afraid to be in this country where everyone carries a gun except for him. He went out and got a shot gun and two rifles. My brother in law has an AR-15, a shot gun and multiple hand guns.

It's one thing to buy a gun it's another to actually know how to use it and keep skills up to date.

Anonymous wrote:Good grief. This thread is over the top.

Just an observation - it is NOT the MAGA types causing mayhem in LA or NY or Dallas.

It is ICE...which is worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Your husband is not a trainedt soldier or army fighter.

Can you explain the difference between a trained soldier and an Army fighter?

50 caliber machine gun mounted on Humvee.

Anonymous wrote:I think you're propagandizing yourself by focusing only on right wing violence. Try to focus on facts.

Both right wing and left wing criminals have committed acts of violence in recent times and throughout American history. Both left wing and right wing politicians and pundits have advocated violence openly and with dog whistles.

The current LA riots are a good example. Despite the "peaceful protest" narrative, we can see our own eyes people being extremely violent and committing arson. Before you waste time defending left wing violence as moral or somehow less violent because you agree with the actors' politics, understand what you are tacitly supporting. People whose position on violence is highly flexible due to partisanship stand for the idea that people get to be violent if they believe strongly in their cause or believe the other side deserves it. The problem is that EVERY violent movement in history and every side in a war, civil or otherwise, has believed the other side deserving and their cause just.

If you want to minimize the likelihood of running terrified while your former neighbors and countrymen hunt you down, stand vocally and unequivocally with zero exceptions for the conviction that violence is a completely unacceptable way to handle disagreements of any sort. Every time people pretend not to see violence when their chosen side is perpetrating it, they legitimize it as a fair response to themselves.

Equating people fighting for civil rights with a coup is really weak. They are not the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Progressive men don’t NEED to own AR15 guns. They can fight like REAL men, with their fists. Or with knives and even swords. They don’t need guns to win.

There are progressives that identify as men but it’s unclear how many are actually men.

Apparently progressives can be men if they want. Or women. Or both. Apparently they can choose genders, and there are dozens to choose from.

Although only a biologist can tell who is a woman.

Anonymous wrote:Progressive men don’t NEED to own AR15 guns. They can fight like REAL men, with their fists. Or with knives and even swords. They don’t need guns to win.

There are progressives that identify as men but it’s unclear how many are actually men.

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Anonymous wrote:Your husband is not a trained soldier or army fighter.

Can you explain the difference between a trained soldier and an Army fighter?

This is a joke thread. It has to be.

Anonymous wrote:Your husband is not a trained soldier or army fighter.

Can you explain the difference between a trained soldier and an Army fighter?

I'll tell you one thing, if anyone thinks I am going to sit in my house shaking because a buffoon with a MAGA hat and fatigues is threatening people, they're in for a surprise

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.

Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.

Literally 100% of all the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGAs pretending to be protesters.

This is common knowledge. Even my kids know this.

from Grok:

No, the claim that 100% of the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGA supporters pretending to be protesters is not supported by evidence. The 2020 protests, particularly following George Floyd’s death, involved a complex mix of actors and motives. While there were reports of opportunistic actors, including some far-right groups, exploiting protests for their own ends, credible evidence does not indicate that all violence was orchestrated by undercover MAGA supporters.

Data from the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) shows over 10,600 protest events in the U.S. from May to August 2020, with 93% being peaceful. Violence, when it occurred, was attributed to a range of factors: clashes between protesters and police, looting by unaffiliated groups, and sporadic actions by both left-wing and right-wing extremists. Specific incidents, like those in Minneapolis or Portland, involved documented cases of vandalism and arson by diverse groups, but no comprehensive evidence points to MAGA supporters as the sole perpetrators. For example, arrests in Minneapolis included local residents and some out-of-state individuals, but no clear pattern of "undercover MAGA" orchestration emerged from law enforcement reports.

The claim also stems from online narratives, particularly on X, where some users speculated about "false flag" operations. However, these lack substantiation from primary sources like court records or official investigations. Conversely, groups like Antifa and unaffiliated opportunists were also linked to specific violent acts, though not exclusively. The complexity of 2020’s unrest defies a single explanation.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I do. I don't think it's most, but enough MAGA people seem itching for a fight that I've gone out and gotten a gun and learned to shoot it. I'm not interested in being a sitting duck should the time come because I stupidly took the stance of "it could never happen here." No, it absolutely could happen here, just as it has happened elsewhere throughout history.

What did you get, if you are willing to share? I’ve just started browsing online.

My husband is a super liberal democrat but he too is afraid to be in this country where everyone carries a gun except for him. He went out and got a shot gun and two rifles. My brother in law has an AR-15, a shot gun and multiple hand guns.

What’s he going to do when a MAGA takes that gun from him? Because that’s what’s going to happen.

Why would a MAGA take a gun from him? If they are doing it aggressively he will just shoot them.

Because the easiest way to get a gun if someone wants one is to take it from someone who already has it.

Your husband is not a trained soldier or army fighter. He will not be able to defend himself and prevent a maga attacker from taking his gun and then probably shooting him with it. Then we’ll have yet ANOTHER armed maga - armed because they took your husband’s gun.


Guns are not effective. It’s stupid to have them, because the enemy will just take them. It’s such a stupid idea to have a gun.

Aim at center mass, squeeze trigger, repeat as necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.

Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.

Literally 100% of all the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGAs pretending to be protesters.

This is common knowledge. Even my kids know this.

link? reputable sources for your claims?