Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
It's a huge safety issue to drive without a phone... in Arlington? Your kid can safely walk home from any point in the county.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.
Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.
Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.
Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.
Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?
They definitely can use Synergy for this
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.
Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
Employers really shouldn't be bothering high school students at school, nor should parents. That can all get handled after school hours.
This. Employers need to wait to talk to students after school, and that’s a ridiculous reason to keep phones in the classroom.
Your kids schedule is in ParentVue, just schedule doctor appt for classes that are less critical. You don’t need a 3-way call with your doctors receptions, your kid, and you to schedule a physical.
You think I know when my kid has a test, or a big project due? Or their entire extracurricular or social schedule? Unlike you my kid takes some agency and planning for their life and activities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.
Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.
Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
Employers really shouldn't be bothering high school students at school, nor should parents. That can all get handled after school hours.
You clearly don't have an older kid. No it doesn't work this way. Older kids are starting to manage their own schedules, but parents still have a role too. So coordination does need to happen and dr's offices just are not open after school hours.
On the one hand: consensus of scientific and education professionals who say that cell phone use in school by teens harms the educational environment for teens, including but not limited to: distraction, bullying, anxiety, depression.
On the other hand: some parents (and all the teens) who want to be able to schedule things with their children.
This is why we know your kids are either very young or you see the world as completely black and white with strict rules.
No one believes anyone should spend all day staring at phones. We shouldn’t spend all day on DCUM. Teens shouldn’t spend all day on TikTok or YouTube.
Cell addiction for DCUM, TikTok or YouTube can be a distraction and can get in the way of life. But most rational people see the value of having access to a phone, when needed and appropriate, at a certain age to manage life without going to draconian lockdown.
I posted this and I have both a HS child (YHS) and a MS child. You phone wanters keep reiterating that only parents with very young children want the ban. This is not true. I want the ban and I have kids in APS who can both drive and have extremely complicated schedules that change all the time. And I work.
I totally agree with you that having a phone makes my child’s life easier and mine. So I bough them a phone. I absolutely 100% support them being completely banned at school, during school hours, for all children. I am willing to take the trade off in convenience for that window in exchange for their educational experience and wellbeing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.
Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
Employers really shouldn't be bothering high school students at school, nor should parents. That can all get handled after school hours.
This. Employers need to wait to talk to students after school, and that’s a ridiculous reason to keep phones in the classroom.
Your kids schedule is in ParentVue, just schedule doctor appt for classes that are less critical. You don’t need a 3-way call with your doctors receptions, your kid, and you to schedule a physical.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
Why can’t they keep their phone in the car they are driving? Some cars have built in internet in fact.
If I was in need of (illicit) phones, I'd know to hang out at a high school parking lot.
Also, who leaves a phone in their abandoned car anyway. Not I. She is probably a privileged mom in North Arlington, where nothing bad ever happens except coins being riffled through unlocked cars.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.
Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.
I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.
Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.
You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.
Employers really shouldn't be bothering high school students at school, nor should parents. That can all get handled after school hours.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's interesting the middle schools will now NOT have them.
I have a kid in high school and the teachers do not enforce the cell phone away policy at all. My guess is this age group is more brazen about blowing off the rules so they are going to give them the pouches and don't want to buy more for middle school kids. But I think middle school kids have the least impulse control when it comes to phones.
MS rules are they have to be in your locker. According to my MS’ers they don’t see hardly any kids hiding them in class.
Keep writing your SB and the principal. The phone-free policy is mandated by VA DOE now, and every email is subject to FOIA and has to be retained. If enough emails accrue to demonstrate that the policy isn't being enforced, it creates a record of evidence that DOE can use. APS knows this, so if the pressure keeps up, they'll have to act, likely by expanding the pouches to MS as well.
Why would you want them to be in middle schools? The likelihood of my kid forgetting to unlock this pouch is so high. They have iPads and computers (which most of their instruction is given through). Phones are not the issue here.
I don't want them in high school either because my kid is also likely to forget to unlock it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.
Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.
Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.
Why can’t they keep their phone in the car they are driving? Some cars have built in internet in fact.
Now we know your kid is in elementary school.