Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone’s first response to call a lawyer and initiate divorce? A marriage of 18 years deserves more than a knee jerk reaction and vindictiveness.
Why not talk it out honestly? I heard your
conversation and it sounds like you are having an affair, I’m deeply hurt. Can this be saved and do we want to?
I’m not defending the wife. Cheating is wrong no matter the circumstances. But marriages are complicated and can recover from betrayal.
Anonymous wrote:Troll or not, this shit happens to people and is worthy of discussion.
I know a couple where the wife cheated about year twenty to twenty five of their marriage, the kids were little. He discovered it, she ended it, they just celebrated 50 years together.
Everything doesn't happen the way many of you are so sure it does. Some men do forgive and not want to end their marriages. Some women who cheat really do love their husbands and family despite their reasons for cheating. Not all cheaters of either gender are selfish narcissistic a$$holes as many of you seem to think.
The reason there are so many black and white answers here is because it makes people scared to think this could happen to them and they'd like to think there is a formula that applies to every situation where they had no role in the situation other than as victim.
I think it's valuable for OP and anyone else dealing with cheating to see many different perspectives so maybe stop attacking those who don't agree with you and let the cheated on person take what speaks to them and get through their situation the best they can under their individual and unique circumstances.
Anonymous wrote:All is fair in war and divorce. OP, you have to look out for #1!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am sorry she did this to you, my brother. Move ASAP to retain a good lawyer. In your posts, you mention she is a lawyer as well.
This is important since she likely has an exit plan regarding a potential divorce. When you meet with your lawyer:
1) Develop what you think is a fair split for your property, how you two can pay for college for your girls, etc. You will need this when either A) you confront her, or B) she confronts you once she knows you are on to her.
2) Find out how important gathering additional evidence of the affair is to your case. If you do need more evidence, let a professional handle it. You can go down a rabbit hole and look at texts between her and her AP, photos she sent him, places they went (and when), etc. None of that data helps you; looking for it can tip her off that you know before you are ready for her to know.
3) Get a good therapist. A therapist can help you (and your daughters) get back on your feet and start healing immediately.
4) Do not try to get beyond this betrayal. Most (if not all) men find that a clean break is best. Giving her a second (or third..) chance hurts you and sets a bad example for your daughters.
5) Remember that she made the mistake. When you confront her and she asks what she can do to make it up to you, tell her she needs to be fair to you and the kids. If they want to stay with you (or if they want more time with you than 50/50), she needs to respect, understand, and support their wishes.
Believe it or not, this is the best thing that could have happened given the circumstances. You can find someone much better and get rid of someone who is bringing evil to your house.
Thank you so much. I will definitely gather additional evidences. I spoke to my brother and he suggested hiring a private investigator.
100%
Secretly see an attorney as well.
And get phone logs
Anonymous wrote:Troll or not, this shit happens to people and is worthy of discussion.
I know a couple where the wife cheated about year twenty to twenty five of their marriage, the kids were little. He discovered it, she ended it, they just celebrated 50 years together.
Everything doesn't happen the way many of you are so sure it does. Some men do forgive and not want to end their marriages. Some women who cheat really do love their husbands and family despite their reasons for cheating. Not all cheaters of either gender are selfish narcissistic a$$holes as many of you seem to think.
The reason there are so many black and white answers here is because it makes people scared to think this could happen to them and they'd like to think there is a formula that applies to every situation where they had no role in the situation other than as victim.
I think it's valuable for OP and anyone else dealing with cheating to see many different perspectives so maybe stop attacking those who don't agree with you and let the cheated on person take what speaks to them and get through their situation the best they can under their individual and unique circumstances.
Anonymous wrote:Troll or not, this shit happens to people and is worthy of discussion.
I know a couple where the wife cheated about year twenty to twenty five of their marriage, the kids were little. He discovered it, she ended it, they just celebrated 50 years together.
Everything doesn't happen the way many of you are so sure it does. Some men do forgive and not want to end their marriages. Some women who cheat really do love their husbands and family despite their reasons for cheating. Not all cheaters of either gender are selfish narcissistic a$$holes as many of you seem to think.
The reason there are so many black and white answers here is because it makes people scared to think this could happen to them and they'd like to think there is a formula that applies to every situation where they had no role in the situation other than as victim.
I think it's valuable for OP and anyone else dealing with cheating to see many different perspectives so maybe stop attacking those who don't agree with you and let the cheated on person take what speaks to them and get through their situation the best they can under their individual and unique circumstances.
She knows you know and it's driving her crazy. She needs to find out exactly what you know so she can get her lies in order.Anonymous wrote: She keeps asking if I'm ok, and saying that I seem off. Should I hold off until I speak to my lawyer?
I am still processing all of this. Seems like a bad dream.
Everything doesn't happen the way many of you are so sure it does. Some men do forgive and not want to end their marriages. Some women who cheat really do love their husbands and family despite their reasons for cheating. Not all cheaters of either gender are selfish narcissistic a$$holes as many of you seem to think.
Talking to a therapist about what worked in your marriage, what didn't, and what you could have done better can be a healing process. However, avoid listening to her attempts to tell you the reasons why she cheated by understanding that she is looking to manipulate you into accepting blame for her actions. Often, abusive people will blame their partner for "making them" abusive (e.g., You talked to another man, making me jealous enough to hit you). Once you hear "you should have paid more attention to me, so I had to start seeing him", know that she is trying to blame you for her abuse.Maybe if you know the reasons forgiveness is possible, if you want it.
She deceived you, and this poster would have open yourself up for more. Defend against more deceit by identifying your legal rights. Before talking to her about the future, find out what a fair settlement is. OP, she was talking to her lover from your kitchen. It is not vindictive to understand what your legal options are. She already knows hers.Why is everyone’s first response to call a lawyer and initiate divorce? A marriage of 18 years deserves more than a knee jerk reaction and vindictiveness.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone’s first response to call a lawyer and initiate divorce? A marriage of 18 years deserves more than a knee jerk reaction and vindictiveness.
Why not talk it out honestly? I heard your
conversation and it sounds like you are having an affair, I’m deeply hurt. Can this be saved and do we want to?
I’m not defending the wife. Cheating is wrong no matter the circumstances. But marriages are complicated and can recover from betrayal.
When women f around, she doesn’t want to “recover”. It’s over.
That’s BS. People cheat for different reasons and it’s not gender specific, despite the popular tropes.