Anonymous wrote:So far have seen on this board: Loyola MD, Loyola Chicago, Xavier, Marquette, St Joes Philly, Dayton, Denver, Maybe Seton Hall? seem to be a lot of Catholic ones which is ok with us even though not very religious. Anyone have experience with these or any others to add? Undecided major but most likely accounting or marketing. Loyola MD probably too small for kid but keeping it on here because they have generous aid and we are price sensitive.

Catholic ones are maga no way in hell I’d send my kid to an unamerican college

Denver kids get jobs it’s a great school. Is that the idea send your kid to a school that gets them a job

Dayton no

What about Pace? Downtown NYC. Merit money calculator should help you evaluate the $. I know a few late bloomers who attended and then absolutely capitalized on the opportunities provided by the location.

https://www.pace.edu/admission-and-aid/undergraduate-admission/tuition-and-cost/merit-scholarship-estimator

Chapman is great because it's close to LA but in the cute town of Orange.

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Another school I haven't seen mentioned here is Stevens Institute of Technology (https://www.stevens.edu).

Having a define campus on the edge of a small city (with a larger city right across the river) was a big draw for my DC. And while Stevens is a bit more niche than a lot of the schools mentioned in this thread, it does have a business school and the accounting/marketing majors OP says are of interest so it’s definitely worth considering. And FWIW, my kid is a solid but not T20 kind of student who went TO and received nice merit.

Great points - thanks. Stevens is a very good school but definitely niche. Seems like lots of kids go into IT project management type jobs on Wall Street, which pay well (not investment banking money, but a nice living). It has very loyal alumni who help there own. I have heard there are some issues with housing but not sure about that? Hoboken is a great place to live - lots of people end up there after college - and very quick trip to NYC without dealing with all of the stresses of NYC.

I'm not familiar with any issues. Housing is guaranteed to freshman, and available on a lottery basis after that. Several people DC spoke to said that most sophomores who actually want housing can get it since it's common to move off campus after freshman year (and that is not unique to Stevens by any means). I toured three of the dorms with DC on Admitted Students day and they were no worse than any others I've ever seen. Now, housing in Hoboken may be more of an issue as rents can be high (although the city is rent controlled, so once you do sign a lease you know you aren't going to have a massive increase that forces you out) but again, lots of schools have similar circumstances and most kids I know, regardless of where they attend, move off campus after freshman year.

I knew it was guaranteed for freshmen but, as you mentioned, Hoboken is pretty expensive with limited capacity, so it got harder for upper classmen. I just did some research and a few years ago they opened two new towers with room for about 1,000 students so that helps in providing more options (since there are only about 4,000 undergrads anyway), which is great.

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Anonymous wrote:SMU in Dallas is beautiful

Yes but also not sure what OP means by urban. It is in the middle of Dallas but not downtown or anything.

DP. You'd have to have a pretty strict definition of "urban" to say that SMU isn't urban. Yes, the Park Cities are an enclave of mostly single family homes, but my DC has a 10 minute walk to the heart of campus and lives in a high rise apartment building surrounded by high rise office buildings (and the East campus is next door). The center of downtown Dallas is just a few miles away and the space in between is mostly high rise/very dense buildings. By your definition, I can't think of many campuses that qualify as "urban" other than NYU.

In any case, one of the great things about SMU is that because the campus is in the jurisdiction of University Park and patrolled by the Park Cities Police as well as the Dallas Police Department and SMU Campus Police, it's a pretty rare combination -- it's in the heart of a big city and also very safe.

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Another school I haven't seen mentioned here is Stevens Institute of Technology (https://www.stevens.edu).

Having a define campus on the edge of a small city (with a larger city right across the river) was a big draw for my DC. And while Stevens is a bit more niche than a lot of the schools mentioned in this thread, it does have a business school and the accounting/marketing majors OP says are of interest so it’s definitely worth considering. And FWIW, my kid is a solid but not T20 kind of student who went TO and received nice merit.

Great points - thanks. Stevens is a very good school but definitely niche. Seems like lots of kids go into IT project management type jobs on Wall Street, which pay well (not investment banking money, but a nice living). It has very loyal alumni who help there own. I have heard there are some issues with housing but not sure about that? Hoboken is a great place to live - lots of people end up there after college - and very quick trip to NYC without dealing with all of the stresses of NYC.

I'm not familiar with any issues. Housing is guaranteed to freshman, and available on a lottery basis after that. Several people DC spoke to said that most sophomores who actually want housing can get it since it's common to move off campus after freshman year (and that is not unique to Stevens by any means). I toured three of the dorms with DC on Admitted Students day and they were no worse than any others I've ever seen. Now, housing in Hoboken may be more of an issue as rents can be high (although the city is rent controlled, so once you do sign a lease you know you aren't going to have a massive increase that forces you out) but again, lots of schools have similar circumstances and most kids I know, regardless of where they attend, move off campus after freshman year.

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Another school I haven't seen mentioned here is Stevens Institute of Technology (https://www.stevens.edu).

Having a define campus on the edge of a small city (with a larger city right across the river) was a big draw for my DC. And while Stevens is a bit more niche than a lot of the schools mentioned in this thread, it does have a business school and the accounting/marketing majors OP says are of interest so it’s definitely worth considering. And FWIW, my kid is a solid but not T20 kind of student who went TO and received nice merit.

Great points - thanks. Stevens is a very good school but definitely niche. Seems like lots of kids go into IT project management type jobs on Wall Street, which pay well (not investment banking money, but a nice living). It has very loyal alumni who help there own. I have heard there are some issues with housing but not sure about that? Hoboken is a great place to live - lots of people end up there after college - and very quick trip to NYC without dealing with all of the stresses of NYC.

What do you consider medium sized? For example, Pitt isn’t considered mid sized but it is much smaller than Penn State. My dd (who started at a very small school) finished at Pitt and did not feel overwhelmed.

Also, as an accountant I would not take out loans or pay $$$ tuition at some of the schools mentioned for an accounting degree (eg USC or Case). Both great schools and I know students at both who have had fabulous experiences so this is only about the tuition

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Anonymous wrote:SMU in Dallas is beautiful

Yes but also not sure what OP means by urban. It is in the middle of Dallas but not downtown or anything.

A good portion of the campus is in Uptown, which is the actual downtown of Dallas.

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Another school I haven't seen mentioned here is Stevens Institute of Technology (https://www.stevens.edu).

Having a define campus on the edge of a small city (with a larger city right across the river) was a big draw for my DC. And while Stevens is a bit more niche than a lot of the schools mentioned in this thread, it does have a business school and the accounting/marketing majors OP says are of interest so it’s definitely worth considering. And FWIW, my kid is a solid but not T20 kind of student who went TO and received nice merit.

Anonymous wrote:NYU, NU, BU, USC are the top 4
Although USC and maybe NYU are close to T25ish and NU and BU are equally hard to get in.

OP asked for medium sized schools. NYU is large with 40,000 students.

NYU, NU, BU, USC are the top 4
Although USC and maybe NYU are close to T25ish and NU and BU are equally hard to get in.

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Anonymous wrote:Fordham - Lincoln Center. In a great section of Manhattan.

I live near Lincoln Center. Love the neighborhood. Not where I would want to go to college as an undergrad. Particularly since most of Fordham is in the Bronx.

The Lincoln Center campus seems great for performing art majors and kids that really truly want to be right in the middle of downtown.

While the undergrad population at RH is larger, Lincoln Center has over 2,500 students which is still sizable.

For the arts I agree it is a great place to be. But otherwise there is zero sense of community. Columbia is much more unified, and even NYU, which is huge and more spread out, feels like more of a college. Fordham is just a few random buildings mixed into a bunch of tall residential towers and the Lincoln Center campus (and some NYCHA). I guess I can see how being in a situation could initially be exciting for someone who has never been in NYC, but I feel like you have the rest of your life for that.

Not bad mouthing it - just providing some perspective. I'm still net-net very pro-Fordham as I have worked with several alums and been impressed.

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Anonymous wrote:Most mid-sized schools are Catholic or Jesuit. I saw someone suggested Miami and Tulane, but those aren't urban...not really. They are in cities, but have well defined campuses and are are separated from the more urban areas. For example, in Boston, BU is urban, BC is not. Miami and Tulane are like BC.

I disagree. Tulane is urban. Is it in a gritty area? No. But it is still urban.

UMiami is not in the city. It’s in very suburban Coral Gables. It’s near the city, yes, but not a city school at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Fordham - Lincoln Center. In a great section of Manhattan.

I live near Lincoln Center. Love the neighborhood. Not where I would want to go to college as an undergrad. Particularly since most of Fordham is in the Bronx.

The Lincoln Center campus seems great for performing art majors and kids that really truly want to be right in the middle of downtown.

While the undergrad population at RH is larger, Lincoln Center has over 2,500 students which is still sizable.