Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:47     Subject: Re:Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:NP. Am I the only one who if I was the mother here would want any chance my baby had at life? I am pro-choice to be clear (or at least pro-choice as it used to be, not late term, reasonable limits), but God, if I was that mom I would not care what they did to me to give my baby a chance at survival.

I am confused by the reaction here. I’ve had multiple pregnancies and in any one of them, I would have done almost anything to ensure the survival of the baby.


if I was 35 weeks pregnant sure. But not 9 weeks. Because the baby will be gravely disabled. dead bodies cannot actually gestate healthy babies.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:44     Subject: Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am copying and pasting my post:
If I died when the baby was nine weeks, no. Not a chance. There is no way to bring a healthy baby into the world given those circumstances and bankrupting my family while my body rotted from the inside is an absolute.no.

Maybe if I were 30 weeks.

Adding: it is not extreme at all to not want your body to shut down over 30 plus weeks and incur lifelong and crippling debt.

How on earth is THAT position extreme?


As a practical matter how is she incurring lifelong debt? She will die, and they can’t recover money from a corpse. Why the exaggerated references to lifelong debt and bankruptcy? The taxpayers and hospitals will pay for this, not her family. Georgia isn’t a community property state, which is the more common situation where medical debt before death can attach to the surviving spouse.

Also, comatose women on vents have birthed babies before. It’s a terrible situation but you are being extreme by not at least acknowledging that has happened.

Again, extreme language.

I get that you would not want to do this yourself. But the discussion here on DCUM has been so extremist that I find it baffling.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:44     Subject: Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am copying and pasting my post:
If I died when the baby was nine weeks, no. Not a chance. There is no way to bring a healthy baby into the world given those circumstances and bankrupting my family while my body rotted from the inside is an absolute.no.

Maybe if I were 30 weeks.

Adding: it is not extreme at all to not want your body to shut down over 30 plus weeks and incur lifelong and crippling debt.

How on earth is THAT position extreme?


As a practical matter how is she incurring lifelong debt? She will die, and they can’t recover money from a corpse. Why the exaggerated references to lifelong debt and bankruptcy? The taxpayers and hospitals will pay for this, not her family. Georgia isn’t a community property state, which is the more common situation where medical debt before death can attach to the surviving spouse.

Also, comatose women on vents have birthed babies before. It’s a terrible situation but you are being extreme by not at least acknowledging that has happened.

Again, extreme language.

I get that you would not want to do this yourself. But the discussion here on DCUM has been so extremist that I find it baffling.


Every moment this woman is on life support the baby is experiencing medical.trauma that will follow the family and their finances for life.

Comatose women have given birth...not braindead women who were out on life support at NINE WEEKS!!
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:41     Subject: Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this was covered already, but her estate would be bankrupt but not her mom or boyfriend. I agree that the health insurer should sue on her behalf but she might be on medicaid at this point.


+1

Yes, there are a lot of serious issues in this case but the people in this thread talking about lifelong debt or bankrupting the family are flatly ignorant and plainly irrational. There are enough serious real issues here that a fake one doesn’t need to be added to the list.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:34     Subject: Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:I am copying and pasting my post:
If I died when the baby was nine weeks, no. Not a chance. There is no way to bring a healthy baby into the world given those circumstances and bankrupting my family while my body rotted from the inside is an absolute.no.

Maybe if I were 30 weeks.

Adding: it is not extreme at all to not want your body to shut down over 30 plus weeks and incur lifelong and crippling debt.

How on earth is THAT position extreme?


As a practical matter how is she incurring lifelong debt? She will die, and they can’t recover money from a corpse. Why the exaggerated references to lifelong debt and bankruptcy? The taxpayers and hospitals will pay for this, not her family. Georgia isn’t a community property state, which is the more common situation where medical debt before death can attach to the surviving spouse.

Also, comatose women on vents have birthed babies before. It’s a terrible situation but you are being extreme by not at least acknowledging that has happened.

Again, extreme language.

I get that you would not want to do this yourself. But the discussion here on DCUM has been so extremist that I find it baffling.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:33     Subject: Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Not sure if this was covered already, but her estate would be bankrupt but not her mom or boyfriend. I agree that the health insurer should sue on her behalf but she might be on medicaid at this point.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:22     Subject: Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
I am copying and pasting my post:
If I died when the baby was nine weeks, no. Not a chance. There is no way to bring a healthy baby into the world given those circumstances and bankrupting my family while my body rotted from the inside is an absolute.no.

Maybe if I were 30 weeks.

Adding: it is not extreme at all to not want your body to shut down over 30 plus weeks and incur lifelong and crippling debt.

How on earth is THAT position extreme?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:19     Subject: Re:Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. Am I the only one who if I was the mother here would want any chance my baby had at life? I am pro-choice to be clear (or at least pro-choice as it used to be, not late term, reasonable limits), but God, if I was that mom I would not care what they did to me to give my baby a chance at survival.

I am confused by the reaction here. I’ve had multiple pregnancies and in any one of them, I would have done almost anything to ensure the survival of the baby.


I feel like you do. And I think the reactions here are pretty extreme. The mother is dead, so it really comes down to the feelings of her husband & parents, vs the survival of the baby. I would personally place survival over feelings.


How far does that go? If she was 3 weeks pregnant? Sustaining her on medications which can impact the fetus while her body gets contractures and pressure wounds till the end? If you place survival over feelings then you believe in forced organ donation against someone's will?

You believe your view should override someone else's desires for their own body?


But we don’t know what she desired for her own body.


PS, I wouldn't want this either, if I suffered a catastrophic event at 9 weeks pregnant. I have taken care of long term ventilator patients. She was an RN herself and that likely helps the family know her desires as most people in the medical field who have seen the reality would not choose this and generally are less likely to choose extreme interventions when they know and have seen the reality of it.

Would you force my body to be sustained for months against my will while I get contractures and pressure wounds to be able to support a fetus getting damaged along the way by all the medications and care supplied to me to harvest my body as a biological incubator while I am technically dead?

I find that bizarre and disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:17     Subject: Re:Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. Am I the only one who if I was the mother here would want any chance my baby had at life? I am pro-choice to be clear (or at least pro-choice as it used to be, not late term, reasonable limits), but God, if I was that mom I would not care what they did to me to give my baby a chance at survival.

I am confused by the reaction here. I’ve had multiple pregnancies and in any one of them, I would have done almost anything to ensure the survival of the baby.


I feel like you do. And I think the reactions here are pretty extreme. The mother is dead, so it really comes down to the feelings of her husband & parents, vs the survival of the baby. I would personally place survival over feelings.


Yeah, the reaction in DCUM seems pretty extreme to me. She is dead, so as you say this is the feelings of the family over the survival of the baby.

I think nine weeks is a factor, it’s not clear to be that the baby can survive (although in the grotesque rape cases of comatose women, they have survived), but it’s not like this is such an easy case.

For all the people screaming in here about how she is just an incubator, would you have said the same if she was 27 weeks and the family wanted to let her die, but her body could be kept alive to ensure delivery at 32 weeks? At what point do the feelings of her family stop trumping the survival of the baby for you?

I just do not understand the DCUM reaction here. It seems so extreme to me.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:14     Subject: Re:Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. Am I the only one who if I was the mother here would want any chance my baby had at life? I am pro-choice to be clear (or at least pro-choice as it used to be, not late term, reasonable limits), but God, if I was that mom I would not care what they did to me to give my baby a chance at survival.

I am confused by the reaction here. I’ve had multiple pregnancies and in any one of them, I would have done almost anything to ensure the survival of the baby.


I feel like you do. And I think the reactions here are pretty extreme. The mother is dead, so it really comes down to the feelings of her husband & parents, vs the survival of the baby. I would personally place survival over feelings.


How far does that go? If she was 3 weeks pregnant? Sustaining her on medications which can impact the fetus while her body gets contractures and pressure wounds till the end? If you place survival over feelings then you believe in forced organ donation against someone's will?

You believe your view should override someone else's desires for their own body?


But we don’t know what she desired for her own body.


We don't keep people brain dead on vents forever, we defer to the family in such cases as power of attorney, and the family indicated she would not have wanted this.

-RN
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:10     Subject: Re:Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. Am I the only one who if I was the mother here would want any chance my baby had at life? I am pro-choice to be clear (or at least pro-choice as it used to be, not late term, reasonable limits), but God, if I was that mom I would not care what they did to me to give my baby a chance at survival.

I am confused by the reaction here. I’ve had multiple pregnancies and in any one of them, I would have done almost anything to ensure the survival of the baby.


I feel like you do. And I think the reactions here are pretty extreme. The mother is dead, so it really comes down to the feelings of her husband & parents, vs the survival of the baby. I would personally place survival over feelings.


How far does that go? If she was 3 weeks pregnant? Sustaining her on medications which can impact the fetus while her body gets contractures and pressure wounds till the end? If you place survival over feelings then you believe in forced organ donation against someone's will?

You believe your view should override someone else's desires for their own body?


But we don’t know what she desired for her own body.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:05     Subject: Re:Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. Am I the only one who if I was the mother here would want any chance my baby had at life? I am pro-choice to be clear (or at least pro-choice as it used to be, not late term, reasonable limits), but God, if I was that mom I would not care what they did to me to give my baby a chance at survival.

I am confused by the reaction here. I’ve had multiple pregnancies and in any one of them, I would have done almost anything to ensure the survival of the baby.


I feel like you do. And I think the reactions here are pretty extreme. The mother is dead, so it really comes down to the feelings of her husband & parents, vs the survival of the baby. I would personally place survival over feelings.


How far does that go? If she was 3 weeks pregnant? Sustaining her on medications which can impact the fetus while her body gets contractures and pressure wounds till the end? If you place survival over feelings then you believe in forced organ donation against someone's will?

You believe your view should override someone else's desires for their own body?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 09:00     Subject: Re:Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:NP. Am I the only one who if I was the mother here would want any chance my baby had at life? I am pro-choice to be clear (or at least pro-choice as it used to be, not late term, reasonable limits), but God, if I was that mom I would not care what they did to me to give my baby a chance at survival.

I am confused by the reaction here. I’ve had multiple pregnancies and in any one of them, I would have done almost anything to ensure the survival of the baby.


I feel like you do. And I think the reactions here are pretty extreme. The mother is dead, so it really comes down to the feelings of her husband & parents, vs the survival of the baby. I would personally place survival over feelings.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 07:21     Subject: Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is the state going to be responsible for that astronomical hospital bill?

The fetus?

The woman's family?


Ultimately it will be a gofundme.


The American Healthcare system everybody!
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2025 07:20     Subject: Re:Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support
Anonymous wrote:NP. Am I the only one who if I was the mother here would want any chance my baby had at life? I am pro-choice to be clear (or at least pro-choice as it used to be, not late term, reasonable limits), but God, if I was that mom I would not care what they did to me to give my baby a chance at survival.

I am confused by the reaction here. I’ve had multiple pregnancies and in any one of them, I would have done almost anything to ensure the survival of the baby.


The issue is that she cannot be consulted. She isn't making a choice. Her corpse is being used for political purposes, for a baby that will live a short and painful few hours or a long life of suffering if it survives.

I would feel differently than you. Both our feelings are valid, and that's why choice and consent are important. I also firmly believe the government should stay out of people's medical decisions. Politicians are not doctors, and when they cosplay as one, they make messes like this.