Anonymous wrote:OP here- okay let me reframe my question. My goal is NOT college recruitment. It is to have fun, learn and play in HS. Our HS is very competitive (not DC area)

Club 1: U12 3rd team, but the U12 1st team of Club 2

Club 1 offer: 3rd team (ECNL platform)
Club 2 offer: 2nd team (GA platform)

26-27 year: probably would make GA team due to age group change (if it happens for GA)

Easy - GA platform is your best bet. Listen to the Female Footballers Podcast where they interview the GA commissioner.

Anonymous wrote:OP here- okay let me reframe my question. My goal is NOT college recruitment. It is to have fun, learn and play in HS. Our HS is very competitive (not DC area)

Club 1: U12 3rd team, but the U12 1st team of Club 2

Club 1 offer: 3rd team (ECNL platform)
Club 2 offer: 2nd team (GA platform)

26-27 year: probably would make GA team due to age group change (if it happens for GA)

ECNL and GA are only relevant to the 1st teams at their clubs. 2nd and 3rd teams get NO benefit from being in the same club as their top teams. Zero. You are not part the platform unless you are on the top team. The coaching will be different. The experience will be different. And your kid will actually have a better chance at making those 1st teams someday coming from outside the club rather than getting promoted from their own lower teams.

Do not fall into the marketing trap of thinking that ECNL-RL is somehow part of the ECNL (national) platform. It is a completely separate league with separate events, separate coaches, separate schedules. Similarly, GA-Aspire/GA2 is a completely different league and experience from GA.

In short, go where your kid gets the most playing time, has the best coaches and teammates. Then try out for all the 1st teams every year if you want to break into a national platform.

OP here- okay let me reframe my question. My goal is NOT college recruitment. It is to have fun, learn and play in HS. Our HS is very competitive (not DC area)

Club 1: U12 3rd team, but the U12 1st team of Club 2

Club 1 offer: 3rd team (ECNL platform)
Club 2 offer: 2nd team (GA platform)

26-27 year: probably would make GA team due to age group change (if it happens for GA)

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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There’s definitely a difference.

If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.

So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

Please show us, tell us, share with us any non-FCV girl from GA who has got a P4 offer in the last two years since FCV fell apart in the DMC. I'll wait...

Wow you really are broken record. Must be really fun to be around. For the thousandth time, most ECNL and GA players do not go P4, are not targeting P4 college coaches, and therefore that is not a factor for them. What matters is if the schools you are targeting are going to be there. If your daughter is targeting high academic mid-majors, small liberal arts schools, D3 (god forbid!), regional state schools, then depending on their grades and aspirations, GA might be just as good or in some cases a better option because they might get more playing time and stand out more. The point is it's individual and your stats like number of P4 players recruited has no relevance for most players.

What broken record casually skips over is 90% of P4 commitments come from the same top 10% of clubs. What this means is if you're not playing for a club like San Diego Surf it doesn't matter if you're playing in the same league they play in. The clubs that get players into P4 colleges could choose to play in any league and still get players into P4 schools. This was proven when everyone switched over to DA. Ever wonder why the ECNL stats people stop at 2020?

For 99.9% of players playing in GA or ECNL doesn't matter. For the top .01% coaches from the top clubs will find, identify, and recuit them to play on their top teams.

ECNL stats guy just likes to ride the coat tails of successful clubs. Most likely his kid plays on a mid to lower level ECNL club. I know this because that's how the percentages of players works. Also, parents on top teams dont spend their time online fighting about leagues.

You do realize all of the top clubs in the development Academy were clubs that had come over from ECNL? Development Academy had a short run and then most of those clubs returned to ECNL.

Not all but yes many were.

And it just highlights what I was saying. Playing for an average GA or average ECNL club will generate roughly the same results. For most players.

If your kid is good it won't matter because they'll find their way to a top team.

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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There’s definitely a difference.

If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.

So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

Please show us, tell us, share with us any non-FCV girl from GA who has got a P4 offer in the last two years since FCV fell apart in the DMC. I'll wait...

Wow you really are broken record. Must be really fun to be around. For the thousandth time, most ECNL and GA players do not go P4, are not targeting P4 college coaches, and therefore that is not a factor for them. What matters is if the schools you are targeting are going to be there. If your daughter is targeting high academic mid-majors, small liberal arts schools, D3 (god forbid!), regional state schools, then depending on their grades and aspirations, GA might be just as good or in some cases a better option because they might get more playing time and stand out more. The point is it's individual and your stats like number of P4 players recruited has no relevance for most players.

What broken record casually skips over is 90% of P4 commitments come from the same top 10% of clubs. What this means is if you're not playing for a club like San Diego Surf it doesn't matter if you're playing in the same league they play in. The clubs that get players into P4 colleges could choose to play in any league and still get players into P4 schools. This was proven when everyone switched over to DA. Ever wonder why the ECNL stats people stop at 2020?

For 99.9% of players playing in GA or ECNL doesn't matter. For the top .01% coaches from the top clubs will find, identify, and recuit them to play on their top teams.

ECNL stats guy just likes to ride the coat tails of successful clubs. Most likely his kid plays on a mid to lower level ECNL club. I know this because that's how the percentages of players works. Also, parents on top teams dont spend their time online fighting about leagues.

You do realize all of the top clubs in the development Academy were clubs that had come over from ECNL? Development Academy had a short run and then most of those clubs returned to ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. An both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There are differences. Significant differences.

There are also ECNL-RL teams that can (and have) beaten GA teams. But I will not argue ECNL-RL is somehow equal to GA. ECNL-RL teams also get invited to ECNL showcases. But I will not argue ECNL-RL has equal exposure to GA. Stop putting out false narratives. ECNL and GA's exposure to college recruitment are not equal and not even close. Not yet.

I am one of those people who believes GA will overtake ECNL for girls. GA's affiliation to MLSN gives it that advantage. But this will not happen until the future, and none of us know how far in the future. Nor do we know if we are even correct in our prediction at all.

The last sentence (re-focus on your own player) I do agree with.

You can also state there are ECNL RL teams who beat ECNL teams, but ECNL hats are unwilling to share for self preservation reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There’s definitely a difference.

If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.

So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

Please show us, tell us, share with us any non-FCV girl from GA who has got a P4 offer in the last two years since FCV fell apart in the DMC. I'll wait...

Wow you really are broken record. Must be really fun to be around. For the thousandth time, most ECNL and GA players do not go P4, are not targeting P4 college coaches, and therefore that is not a factor for them. What matters is if the schools you are targeting are going to be there. If your daughter is targeting high academic mid-majors, small liberal arts schools, D3 (god forbid!), regional state schools, then depending on their grades and aspirations, GA might be just as good or in some cases a better option because they might get more playing time and stand out more. The point is it's individual and your stats like number of P4 players recruited has no relevance for most players.

What broken record casually skips over is 90% of P4 commitments come from the same top 10% of clubs. What this means is if you're not playing for a club like San Diego Surf it doesn't matter if you're playing in the same league they play in. The clubs that get players into P4 colleges could choose to play in any league and still get players into P4 schools. This was proven when everyone switched over to DA. Ever wonder why the ECNL stats people stop at 2020?

For 99.9% of players playing in GA or ECNL doesn't matter. For the top .01% coaches from the top clubs will find, identify, and recuit them to play on their top teams.

ECNL stats guy just likes to ride the coat tails of successful clubs. Most likely his kid plays on a mid to lower level ECNL club. I know this because that's how the percentages of players works. Also, parents on top teams dont spend their time online fighting about leagues.

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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There’s definitely a difference.

If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.

So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

Please show us, tell us, share with us any non-FCV girl from GA who has got a P4 offer in the last two years since FCV fell apart in the DMC. I'll wait...

Wow you really are broken record. Must be really fun to be around. For the thousandth time, most ECNL and GA players do not go P4, are not targeting P4 college coaches, and therefore that is not a factor for them. What matters is if the schools you are targeting are going to be there. If your daughter is targeting high academic mid-majors, small liberal arts schools, D3 (god forbid!), regional state schools, then depending on their grades and aspirations, GA might be just as good or in some cases a better option because they might get more playing time and stand out more. The point is it's individual and your stats like number of P4 players recruited has no relevance for most players.

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Anonymous wrote:Things will not be the same in 3-4 years. People have to understand that ECNL, on the girls side, was the exclusive beneficiary of the DA going under. They absorbed most all of those teams, and the ones they didn't, they had no problem poaching the top players.

With those players cycling through, and the GA becoming more established (its still a young league), you are going to see a shift. It's not going to be a total takeover, and it's not going to happen over night, but it will certainly even out, and you will no longer have players leaving good clubs for a specific platform when both platforms will be able to provide the same exposure.

This will only happen if ECNL loses a few of the bigger clubs. As long as the best (girls) teams are ECNL they'll keep their crown because any GA achievement will be tainted and college scouts will rate accordingly.

So you are judging success vs the "FEW" good teams vs. the "Club" as a whole?

Anonymous wrote:Things will not be the same in 3-4 years. People have to understand that ECNL, on the girls side, was the exclusive beneficiary of the DA going under. They absorbed most all of those teams, and the ones they didn't, they had no problem poaching the top players.

With those players cycling through, and the GA becoming more established (its still a young league), you are going to see a shift. It's not going to be a total takeover, and it's not going to happen over night, but it will certainly even out, and you will no longer have players leaving good clubs for a specific platform when both platforms will be able to provide the same exposure.

This will only happen if ECNL loses a few of the bigger clubs. As long as the best (girls) teams are ECNL they'll keep their crown because any GA achievement will be tainted and college scouts will rate accordingly.

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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There’s definitely a difference.

If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.

So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

More former girls ECNL quit playing in their first year of college than any other girls league. Something to consider.

More former girls ECNL get injured in their first year of college than any other leagues.

So ECNL has a quitting problem and injury problem?! This is something that is worth discussing.

It's just a telling statistic. Cherry picked just like all the cherry picked data points ECNL people like to relay.

Most likely many ECNL parents have a bunch of $$$. Soccer gets their kid in the door at some college. Then they quit and parents fund the rest.

Things will not be the same in 3-4 years. People have to understand that ECNL, on the girls side, was the exclusive beneficiary of the DA going under. They absorbed most all of those teams, and the ones they didn't, they had no problem poaching the top players.

With those players cycling through, and the GA becoming more established (its still a young league), you are going to see a shift. It's not going to be a total takeover, and it's not going to happen over night, but it will certainly even out, and you will no longer have players leaving good clubs for a specific platform when both platforms will be able to provide the same exposure.

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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There’s definitely a difference.

If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.

So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

More former girls ECNL quit playing in their first year of college than any other girls league. Something to consider.

More former girls ECNL get injured in their first year of college than any other leagues.

So ECNL has a quitting problem and injury problem?! This is something that is worth discussing.

Top GA teams are getting all the recruitment focus of the entire league. That's a pretty good situation to be in.

Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. An both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There are differences. Significant differences.

There are also ECNL-RL teams that can (and have) beaten GA teams. But I will not argue ECNL-RL is somehow equal to GA. ECNL-RL teams also get invited to ECNL showcases. But I will not argue ECNL-RL has equal exposure to GA. Stop putting out false narratives. ECNL and GA's exposure to college recruitment are not equal and not even close. Not yet.

I am one of those people who believes GA will overtake ECNL for girls. GA's affiliation to MLSN gives it that advantage. But this will not happen until the future, and none of us know how far in the future. Nor do we know if we are even correct in our prediction at all.

The last sentence (re-focus on your own player) I do agree with.