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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

We're talking about the First Amendment, not the Second Amendment--keep up. Plus people from other countries are usually not as gun crazy as Americans.

PS. Visitors from other countries are not our enemies. Are you the enemy of any country you visit?

DP.

Sone visitors absolutely are our enemies and are seeking and/or willing to damage our interests. Others are merely interested in advancing their own interests and agendas at our expense.

Meddling in the internal domestic politics of another country as a visitor is wildly inappropriate.

I agree. Where do we stand on removing AIPAC, Betar and Canary Mission from the U.S. political landscape? Also, when are we codifying the law that criminalizes members of the U.S. Congress from propaganda tours of foreign nations?

PP here. In favor of removing all foreign nationals meddling in our affairs. Quite a few Russians and others we can add as well.

Anonymous wrote:It's not rocket science. If you're not a citizen, don't criticize Israel. If you can't accept that, then don't come here.

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

We're talking about the First Amendment, not the Second Amendment--keep up. Plus people from other countries are usually not as gun crazy as Americans.

PS. Visitors from other countries are not our enemies. Are you the enemy of any country you visit?

DP.

Sone visitors absolutely are our enemies and are seeking and/or willing to damage our interests. Others are merely interested in advancing their own interests and agendas at our expense.

Meddling in the internal domestic politics of another country as a visitor is wildly inappropriate.

Depends on how you define "meddling." Have you always been so suspicious of foreigners? Do you travel outside the US much?

I’ve traveled extensively and have never publicly opined on or sought to influence the internal affairs of another country.

As for foreigner visitors, I’m a fan. However, I’m also not naive enough to believe that all are here for salubrious purposes. In fact, I’ve experienced attempts at corporate and academic “espionage” (probably too grand a word, but it captures the idea), as well as interacted with paid propagandists of foreign authoritarian regimes operating in the US.

Not everyone is here to take a picture at the Statue of Liberty and our government should have the power to address that fact.

Anonymous wrote:It's not rocket science. If you're not a citizen, don't criticize Israel. If you can't accept that, then don't come here.

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

We're talking about the First Amendment, not the Second Amendment--keep up. Plus people from other countries are usually not as gun crazy as Americans.

PS. Visitors from other countries are not our enemies. Are you the enemy of any country you visit?

DP.

Sone visitors absolutely are our enemies and are seeking and/or willing to damage our interests. Others are merely interested in advancing their own interests and agendas at our expense.

Meddling in the internal domestic politics of another country as a visitor is wildly inappropriate.

I agree. Where do we stand on removing AIPAC, Betar and Canary Mission from the U.S. political landscape? Also, when are we codifying the law that criminalizes members of the U.S. Congress from propaganda tours of foreign nations?

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

We're talking about the First Amendment, not the Second Amendment--keep up. Plus people from other countries are usually not as gun crazy as Americans.

PS. Visitors from other countries are not our enemies. Are you the enemy of any country you visit?

DP.

Sone visitors absolutely are our enemies and are seeking and/or willing to damage our interests. Others are merely interested in advancing their own interests and agendas at our expense.

Meddling in the internal domestic politics of another country as a visitor is wildly inappropriate.

Depends on how you define "meddling." Have you always been so suspicious of foreigners? Do you travel outside the US much?

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

We're talking about the First Amendment, not the Second Amendment--keep up. Plus people from other countries are usually not as gun crazy as Americans.

PS. Visitors from other countries are not our enemies. Are you the enemy of any country you visit?

DP.

Sone visitors absolutely are our enemies and are seeking and/or willing to damage our interests. Others are merely interested in advancing their own interests and agendas at our expense.

Meddling in the internal domestic politics of another country as a visitor is wildly inappropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

We're talking about the First Amendment, not the Second Amendment--keep up. Plus people from other countries are usually not as gun crazy as Americans.

PS. Visitors from other countries are not our enemies. Are you the enemy of any country you visit?

DP.

Sone visitors absolutely are our enemies and are seeking and/or willing to damage our interests. Others are merely interested in advancing their own interests and agendas at our expense.

Meddling in the internal domestic politics of another country as a visitor is wildly inappropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

We're talking about the First Amendment, not the Second Amendment--keep up. Plus people from other countries are usually not as gun crazy as Americans.

PS. Visitors from other countries are not our enemies. Are you the enemy of any country you visit?

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.

We already arm the enemies of the U.S. - have you the arms transfers to Israel?!

(pro tip for spotting a troll who doesn’t care about America’s interests, by the way … ^^^ they instinctively use US rather than the appropriate U.S.)

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Anonymous wrote:It's not rocket science. If you're not a citizen, don't criticize Israel. If you can't accept that, then don't come here.

This is a great long-term position if one’s goal is to cultivate increasing levels of outrage and hostility toward Israel and those aligned with Israel.

In a world of over 8 billion people, almost certain to be a really bad strategy.

Works fine in Germany

Germany has different laws around freedom of speech than we do, dear.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not rocket science. If you're not a citizen, don't criticize Israel. If you can't accept that, then don't come here.

This is a great long-term position if one’s goal is to cultivate increasing levels of outrage and hostility toward Israel and those aligned with Israel.

In a world of over 8 billion people, almost certain to be a really bad strategy.

Works fine in Germany

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Anonymous wrote:American Association of University Professors v. Rubio (D. Mass.)

Has survived the government's motion to dismiss related to the 1st amendment (5th amendment claims are dismissed). This relates directly to the actions taken against foreign students and academics who have voiced pro-Palestine opinions. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, there are 1st amendment rights for non-citizens. Hard to grasp, I know.

Yes they have a right to voice their opinions. And as democrats loved spouting since 2016, using your right to free speech doesn’t absolve you of the consequences of that action. The government will not imprison anyone over speech, but it can have a noncitizen’s visa revoked.

No foreign national has an absolute right to be present in the US.

Comments like the above just show how MAGA doesn’t understand the basic concepts and ideas that we are discussing in the first place. The first amendment is clear. Government cannot “prohibit” or “abridge” free speech. Period. Trump is counting on the stupidity of the American people and it seems like the people are really going to give it to him.

They are free to say anything they want.

And the US government is allowed to revoke their visa if that speech is seen as a violation of their visa’s rules.

I get it. Foreign nationals have been allowed into this country and permitted to run wild forgetting they are guests here.

But that is coming to an end. Respect your host country, don’t break any laws, if you don’t agree with the government leave and protest it in your native country. It is very simple.

Once again, guests to this country are covered by the same First Amendment rights to free speech as US citizens. Let's review, shall we:

Non-citizens in the U.S., including undocumented immigrants, are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This includes the rights to:

Free speech
Freedom of religion
Freedom of the press
Peaceful assembly
Petitioning the government

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that these rights apply to "all persons" on U.S. soil—not just citizens—regardless of immigration status.

Can we give them guns too? Because I can't see anything wrong with arming the enemies of the US.