Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Smart boys don’t go into politics or want to live in DC. I mean, come on.

Yes, and OP has a very political job related to the Hill and is probably a Dem. Imagine what portion of post-covid 2025 white boys have any interest in working for Dems on the Hill. And imagine what personality traits those kids possess. lol.

The majority of college-educated men are democrats. Not sure what point you are trying to make.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the generation of boys who spent their entire high school career being told by teachers and schools that they were privileged and entitled because of their gender, so sit down, shut up, don't ask questions and don't contribute, until everyone else less priveleged than you has had your stay. They learned that lesson well.

Then, they were the covid kids, where they spent their late high school and early college years isolated in their rooms on their computers.

They are not prepared because the training during their formative years was a disaster, and in some ways, designed to achieve this outcome.

Oh please. My teenage DD can tell you that the boys in her class sure never keep their opinions to themselves.

Those are the dumb / insolent ones. They probably also believe college is a scam. That's not who we're talking about here.

+1

Boys at T20s are more likely to be shy than outspoken.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Is this a troll post? I find it hard to believe that any hiring manager writes this way and is referring to adults within months of receiving their undergraduate degrees as “girls” and “boys.”

I thought the same. Must be Troll.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the generation of boys who spent their entire high school career being told by teachers and schools that they were privileged and entitled because of their gender, so sit down, shut up, don't ask questions and don't contribute, until everyone else less priveleged than you has had your stay. They learned that lesson well.

Then, they were the covid kids, where they spent their late high school and early college years isolated in their rooms on their computers.

They are not prepared because the training during their formative years was a disaster, and in some ways, designed to achieve this outcome.

Oh please. My teenage DD can tell you that the boys in her class sure never keep their opinions to themselves.

Those are the dumb / insolent ones. They probably also believe college is a scam. That's not who we're talking about here.

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Is this a troll post? I find it hard to believe that any hiring manager writes this way and is referring to adults within months of receiving their undergraduate degrees as “girls” and “boys.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Smart boys don’t go into politics or want to live in DC. I mean, come on.

Yes, and OP has a very political job related to the Hill and is probably a Dem. Imagine what portion of post-covid 2025 white boys have any interest in working for Dems on the Hill. And imagine what personality traits those kids possess. lol.

Op - not on the hill, yes political, not in dc

We have some republican/ex-republican partners

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Smart boys don’t go into politics or want to live in DC. I mean, come on.

Yes, and OP has a very political job related to the Hill and is probably a Dem. Imagine what portion of post-covid 2025 white boys have any interest in working for Dems on the Hill. And imagine what personality traits those kids possess. lol.

Op - not on the hill, yes political, not in dc

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Smart boys don’t go into politics or want to live in DC. I mean, come on.

Yes, and OP has a very political job related to the Hill and is probably a Dem. Imagine what portion of post-covid 2025 white boys have any interest in working for Dems on the Hill. And imagine what personality traits those kids possess. lol.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Smart boys don’t go into politics or want to live in DC. I mean, come on.

Then what are the smartest boys doing? I mean the top 10%. Not all of them are going into finance. I’d say at least a few go into politics/law.

This thread isn’t about the smartest

Tech, finance, engineering, grad schools, medicine

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Smart boys don’t go into politics or want to live in DC. I mean, come on.

Then what are the smartest boys doing? I mean the top 10%. Not all of them are going into finance. I’d say at least a few go into politics/law.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Smart boys don’t go into politics or want to live in DC. I mean, come on.

+1

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Interviewed a boy from Penn today

We wanted to hang up in the middle of the interview but couldn’t since he interned in a senate office we’re friends with.

The amount of “likes” and “umm” and even a a random “like awesome”

After him we interviewed a girl from vassar and her vocabulary, cadence, tone….it was akin to being in the jungle observing two completely different species

Smart boys don’t go into politics or want to live in DC. I mean, come on.

Anonymous wrote:OP, what advice do you have for so that boys won’t turn out as you describe? My DS is an incoming freshman at a T20, so he falls into the group you are speaking about.

I think my advice to boys is:

- either lock in academics / fields were objective criteria is weighed so heavily that it matters less if you aren’t as socially polished as your female peers

- take copious amount of writing classes and classes with a public speaking component. Perhaps write for the school newspaper or alt-paper.

- get an exercise routine to build confidence in your skin. Something you are doing daily physically for an hour or so (doesn’t have to be the gym)

- get a girlfriend as some posters have said. Or have female friends.

I mean, yes - OP is relating what is happening. Boys aren't in college in the numbers girls are. And mature later. This isn't news.

Now, the poster who plays the smallest violin in the world and thinks the poor white boys haven't been "trained" because they need to consider the thoughts and experiences of people outside of their direct experience......LOL. They BUILT this world. They have the upper hand. They're the ones in control. They don't need affirmative action.They need to grow a pair and do what the girls have done over the decades - IGNORE the people who said they can't do it. IGNORE the teachers who give preferential treatment to boys in math and science classes. Work hard, study, and get along with everyone. Stop whining and do something.

OP, what advice do you have for so that boys won’t turn out as you describe? My DS is an incoming freshman at a T20, so he falls into the group you are speaking about.