Anonymous wrote:Lawyers in this area can also chime in, but I know where I'm at in Loudoun, we are already seeing the effects of these arrests at courthouses.

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Anonymous wrote:Is a judge immune from an obstruction charge if there’s an articulable case to be made they were obstructing?

Or immune from ANY law, for that matter, by virtue of being a judge?

Could a judge be arrested for DUI? Or assault? Or tax evasion?

If yes, then aren’t those also authoritarianism, too?


Democrats are getting too far out over their skis here on this stuff.

Ok, so you are not getting it. She was arrested for adjudicating a case. Not hiding someone in her basement.

Oh, I “GET” exactly what happened here. A sitting judge assisted a person subject to compliance with a lawful order and helped that person evade custody.

If you or I did such a thing for a person subject to an order from the judge, this same judge would lock us up for it.

This is what I meant about getting too far out over our skis. Stuff like this is HORRIBLE for making claims of authoritarianism, because as soon as you look into it beyond a headline, it falls apart. Then Dems look like the boy who cried wolf.

DP. No. ICE did not have an arrest warrant from a judge. They just had an administrative warrant similar to a subpoena. They can wait outside like everyone else, and the judge does not have to allow them entry.

Arresting immigrants at courthouses is bad policy, as most everyone already knows. Trump doesn't care about policy because he doesn't think long term, when something goes wrong he blames someone else and quits/declares bankruptcy/sure. That's not working well for him in negotiating peace or in these taritf "negotiations" and it won't go well for him here.

To everyone else reading this who is NOT an officer of the court, it comes off as a judge holding the front door shut while allowing a criminal to escape custody out the back door. Because that’s exactly what it is.

This is exactly the stuff Dems shouldn’t be citing, because it’s a sham. People see right through it, and it gives credibility to R’s when they levy accusations against Dems that Dems support illegal immigration.

Why give them useful weapons to use against us?

The whole thing was a set up and the judge wanted no part of it on either side. Patel's tweet that he deleted confirms the same.

This post? That is right there on his timeline?

So, this illegal alien was being tried for domestic assault. The two victims who he beat up - violently - were in the court room ready to testify. When the judge found out that ICE was present she became furious, took the illegal alien out and escorted him out through the private jury door. ICE chased him down and arrested him.

This is a man who had been previously deported, BTW. And, entered illegally again.

Why are democrats so eager to protect and support illegal alien criminals?

As a Dem who despises Trump, I have no idea why other Dems get so worked up about this stuff. Who cares?

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Anonymous wrote:Lawyers in this area can also chime in, but I know where I'm at in Loudoun, we are already seeing the effects of these arrests at courthouses.

Small misdemeanor charges that defendants always showed up for in-person are now being skipped.

These include minor charges like driving without a license, unregistered vehicle, driving without insurance, etc. where typically the defendant could show up to court, provide proof to the judge that they'd obtained a license/insurance/registered their vehicle and have the charge dismissed. They'd only need to pay a small court fee. But now judges are giving out max fines and for class 2, 3, and 4 misdemeanors if the person isn't present. They are issuing bench warrants for class 1 misdemeanors when they don't show.

If I was at court with 10 defendants with a mix of class 2-4 misdemeanor charges over a few days, I may have had 1 no show. Now? It is more like 50-75% are no shows. And I haven't had a class 1 misdemeanor defendant no-show in years but have unfortunately had 2 no-show this week.

If you are here illegally you should be scared. Having a bench warrant means they can be arrested and deported.

I’m ok with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Is a judge immune from an obstruction charge if there’s an articulable case to be made they were obstructing?

Or immune from ANY law, for that matter, by virtue of being a judge?

Could a judge be arrested for DUI? Or assault? Or tax evasion?

If yes, then aren’t those also authoritarianism, too?


Democrats are getting too far out over their skis here on this stuff.

Ok, so you are not getting it. She was arrested for adjudicating a case. Not hiding someone in her basement.

Oh, I “GET” exactly what happened here. A sitting judge assisted a person subject to compliance with a lawful order and helped that person evade custody.

If you or I did such a thing for a person subject to an order from the judge, this same judge would lock us up for it.

This is what I meant about getting too far out over our skis. Stuff like this is HORRIBLE for making claims of authoritarianism, because as soon as you look into it beyond a headline, it falls apart. Then Dems look like the boy who cried wolf.

DP. No. ICE did not have an arrest warrant from a judge. They just had an administrative warrant similar to a subpoena. They can wait outside like everyone else, and the judge does not have to allow them entry.

Arresting immigrants at courthouses is bad policy, as most everyone already knows. Trump doesn't care about policy because he doesn't think long term, when something goes wrong he blames someone else and quits/declares bankruptcy/sure. That's not working well for him in negotiating peace or in these taritf "negotiations" and it won't go well for him here.

To everyone else reading this who is NOT an officer of the court, it comes off as a judge holding the front door shut while allowing a criminal to escape custody out the back door. Because that’s exactly what it is.

This is exactly the stuff Dems shouldn’t be citing, because it’s a sham. People see right through it, and it gives credibility to R’s when they levy accusations against Dems that Dems support illegal immigration.

Why give them useful weapons to use against us?

The whole thing was a set up and the judge wanted no part of it on either side. Patel's tweet that he deleted confirms the same.

This post? That is right there on his timeline?

So, this illegal alien was being tried for domestic assault. The two victims who he beat up - violently - were in the court room ready to testify. When the judge found out that ICE was present she became furious, took the illegal alien out and escorted him out through the private jury door. ICE chased him down and arrested him.

This is a man who had been previously deported, BTW. And, entered illegally again.

Why are democrats so eager to protect and support illegal alien criminals?

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Anonymous wrote:Is a judge immune from an obstruction charge if there’s an articulable case to be made they were obstructing?

Or immune from ANY law, for that matter, by virtue of being a judge?

Could a judge be arrested for DUI? Or assault? Or tax evasion?

If yes, then aren’t those also authoritarianism, too?


Democrats are getting too far out over their skis here on this stuff.

Ok, so you are not getting it. She was arrested for adjudicating a case. Not hiding someone in her basement.

Oh, I “GET” exactly what happened here. A sitting judge assisted a person subject to compliance with a lawful order and helped that person evade custody.

If you or I did such a thing for a person subject to an order from the judge, this same judge would lock us up for it.

This is what I meant about getting too far out over our skis. Stuff like this is HORRIBLE for making claims of authoritarianism, because as soon as you look into it beyond a headline, it falls apart. Then Dems look like the boy who cried wolf.

DP. No. ICE did not have an arrest warrant from a judge. They just had an administrative warrant similar to a subpoena. They can wait outside like everyone else, and the judge does not have to allow them entry.

Arresting immigrants at courthouses is bad policy, as most everyone already knows. Trump doesn't care about policy because he doesn't think long term, when something goes wrong he blames someone else and quits/declares bankruptcy/sure. That's not working well for him in negotiating peace or in these taritf "negotiations" and it won't go well for him here.

To everyone else reading this who is NOT an officer of the court, it comes off as a judge holding the front door shut while allowing a criminal to escape custody out the back door. Because that’s exactly what it is.

This is exactly the stuff Dems shouldn’t be citing, because it’s a sham. People see right through it, and it gives credibility to R’s when they levy accusations against Dems that Dems support illegal immigration.

Why give them useful weapons to use against us?

The whole thing was a set up and the judge wanted no part of it on either side. Patel's tweet that he deleted confirms the same.

This post? That is right there on his timeline?

So, this illegal alien was being tried for domestic assault. The two victims who he beat up - violently - were in the court room ready to testify. When the judge found out that ICE was present she became furious, took the illegal alien out and escorted him out through the private jury door. ICE chased him down and arrested him.

This is a man who had been previously deported, BTW. And, entered illegally again.

Why are democrats so eager to protect and support illegal alien criminals?

WTF. Democrats - these are not the people we should be riding for.

Anonymous wrote:Lawyers in this area can also chime in, but I know where I'm at in Loudoun, we are already seeing the effects of these arrests at courthouses.

Small misdemeanor charges that defendants always showed up for in-person are now being skipped.

These include minor charges like driving without a license, unregistered vehicle, driving without insurance, etc. where typically the defendant could show up to court, provide proof to the judge that they'd obtained a license/insurance/registered their vehicle and have the charge dismissed. They'd only need to pay a small court fee. But now judges are giving out max fines and for class 2, 3, and 4 misdemeanors if the person isn't present. They are issuing bench warrants for class 1 misdemeanors when they don't show.

If I was at court with 10 defendants with a mix of class 2-4 misdemeanor charges over a few days, I may have had 1 no show. Now? It is more like 50-75% are no shows. And I haven't had a class 1 misdemeanor defendant no-show in years but have unfortunately had 2 no-show this week.

Anonymous wrote:So you have already convicted her. Let's see the warrant for the arrest and let's wait for the facts to come out.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch out judges, they’re coming for you!

Yes. If they break the law, they are not immune.
We have been through 4 years where the Biden administration turned a blind eye to law breaking, antisemitism, and a host of other things that should have been charged. About damned time people are being held accountable for their actions.

And in this case, no law was broken. So why was she arrested?

She DID break the law. Aiding and abetting an illegal alien is a crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Is a judge immune from an obstruction charge if there’s an articulable case to be made they were obstructing?

Or immune from ANY law, for that matter, by virtue of being a judge?

Could a judge be arrested for DUI? Or assault? Or tax evasion?

If yes, then aren’t those also authoritarianism, too?


Democrats are getting too far out over their skis here on this stuff.

Ok, so you are not getting it. She was arrested for adjudicating a case. Not hiding someone in her basement.

Oh, I “GET” exactly what happened here. A sitting judge assisted a person subject to compliance with a lawful order and helped that person evade custody.

If you or I did such a thing for a person subject to an order from the judge, this same judge would lock us up for it.

This is what I meant about getting too far out over our skis. Stuff like this is HORRIBLE for making claims of authoritarianism, because as soon as you look into it beyond a headline, it falls apart. Then Dems look like the boy who cried wolf.

DP. No. ICE did not have an arrest warrant from a judge. They just had an administrative warrant similar to a subpoena. They can wait outside like everyone else, and the judge does not have to allow them entry.

Arresting immigrants at courthouses is bad policy, as most everyone already knows. Trump doesn't care about policy because he doesn't think long term, when something goes wrong he blames someone else and quits/declares bankruptcy/sure. That's not working well for him in negotiating peace or in these taritf "negotiations" and it won't go well for him here.

To everyone else reading this who is NOT an officer of the court, it comes off as a judge holding the front door shut while allowing a criminal to escape custody out the back door. Because that’s exactly what it is.

This is exactly the stuff Dems shouldn’t be citing, because it’s a sham. People see right through it, and it gives credibility to R’s when they levy accusations against Dems that Dems support illegal immigration.

Why give them useful weapons to use against us?

The whole thing was a set up and the judge wanted no part of it on either side. Patel's tweet that he deleted confirms the same.

This post? That is right there on his timeline?

So, this illegal alien was being tried for domestic assault. The two victims who he beat up - violently - were in the court room ready to testify. When the judge found out that ICE was present she became furious, took the illegal alien out and escorted him out through the private jury door. ICE chased him down and arrested him.

This is a man who had been previously deported, BTW. And, entered illegally again.

Why are democrats so eager to protect and support illegal alien criminals?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch out judges, they’re coming for you!

Yes. If they break the law, they are not immune.
We have been through 4 years where the Biden administration turned a blind eye to law breaking, antisemitism, and a host of other things that should have been charged. About damned time people are being held accountable for their actions.

And in this case, no law was broken. So why was she arrested?

She DID break the law. Aiding and abetting an illegal alien is a crime.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch out judges, they’re coming for you!

Yes. If they break the law, they are not immune.
We have been through 4 years where the Biden administration turned a blind eye to law breaking, antisemitism, and a host of other things that should have been charged. About damned time people are being held accountable for their actions.

And in this case, no law was broken. So why was she arrested?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is a judge immune from an obstruction charge if there’s an articulable case to be made they were obstructing?

Or immune from ANY law, for that matter, by virtue of being a judge?

Could a judge be arrested for DUI? Or assault? Or tax evasion?

If yes, then aren’t those also authoritarianism, too?


Democrats are getting too far out over their skis here on this stuff.

Ok, so you are not getting it. She was arrested for adjudicating a case. Not hiding someone in her basement.

Oh, I “GET” exactly what happened here. A sitting judge assisted a person subject to compliance with a lawful order and helped that person evade custody.

If you or I did such a thing for a person subject to an order from the judge, this same judge would lock us up for it.

This is what I meant about getting too far out over our skis. Stuff like this is HORRIBLE for making claims of authoritarianism, because as soon as you look into it beyond a headline, it falls apart. Then Dems look like the boy who cried wolf.

DP. No. ICE did not have an arrest warrant from a judge. They just had an administrative warrant similar to a subpoena. They can wait outside like everyone else, and the judge does not have to allow them entry.

Arresting immigrants at courthouses is bad policy, as most everyone already knows. Trump doesn't care about policy because he doesn't think long term, when something goes wrong he blames someone else and quits/declares bankruptcy/sure. That's not working well for him in negotiating peace or in these taritf "negotiations" and it won't go well for him here.

To everyone else reading this who is NOT an officer of the court, it comes off as a judge holding the front door shut while allowing a criminal to escape custody out the back door. Because that’s exactly what it is.

This is exactly the stuff Dems shouldn’t be citing, because it’s a sham. People see right through it, and it gives credibility to R’s when they levy accusations against Dems that Dems support illegal immigration.

Why give them useful weapons to use against us?

The whole thing was a set up and the judge wanted no part of it on either side. Patel's tweet that he deleted confirms the same.