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Anonymous wrote:One clue on where the pronatalist agenda of the Trump administration is coming from:

*Project 2025, the policy blueprint that has forecast much of Mr. Trump’s agenda so far, discusses family issues before anything else, opening its first chapter with a promise to “restore the family as the centerpiece of American life.”

*Much of the movement is built around promoting a very specific idea of what constitutes a family — one that includes marriage between a man and a woman, and leaves out many families that don’t conform to traditional gender roles or family structures.

The article ends with this exhortation from Dear Leader--get to it, mamas!

*Mr. Trump himself weighed in on the issue at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2023, with a statement that has become a rallying cry for many in the movement.

“We will support baby booms and we will support baby bonuses for a new baby boom,” Mr. Trump said. “I want a baby boom.”

Yes, this is right out of the Project 2025 playbook. A family is a married white male and female. They disguise their concern for infertility and "dangerous" birth control with promoting programs that educate women on their menstrual cycles, using the rhythm instead of BC. This faulty method will result in more unwanted pregnancies. With abortion illegal in many states - voila - more babies.

Anonymous wrote:Women need to CAREFULLY select the fathers of their children.

Anonymous wrote:One clue on where the pronatalist agenda of the Trump administration is coming from:

*Project 2025, the policy blueprint that has forecast much of Mr. Trump’s agenda so far, discusses family issues before anything else, opening its first chapter with a promise to “restore the family as the centerpiece of American life.”

*Much of the movement is built around promoting a very specific idea of what constitutes a family — one that includes marriage between a man and a woman, and leaves out many families that don’t conform to traditional gender roles or family structures.

The article ends with this exhortation from Dear Leader--get to it, mamas!

*Mr. Trump himself weighed in on the issue at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2023, with a statement that has become a rallying cry for many in the movement.

“We will support baby booms and we will support baby bonuses for a new baby boom,” Mr. Trump said. “I want a baby boom.”

Anonymous wrote:No guarantees that kids of Republicans will be Republican.

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Anonymous wrote:Well if she dies in childbirth because so many OBGYNs have left red states, her DH will have a lot on his plate as a widower.

Roughly 800 women die during childbirth in the U.S. each year. I wonder what percentage are married? Either way if Republicans keep multiplying and Democrats don't you won't be happy with any elections eventually.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want a higher birth rate, baby bonuses don’t work. They need to address the housing problem, the economic uncertainty, and the unavailability of daycare/expense of daycare. Men also need to modernize their approach to marriage and family. (Gift article)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/baby-bonuses-fertility-planning-trump-aides-assess-ideas-to-boost-birthrate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU8.NtkN.WagWczUEi5e6&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Doesn't work in S Korea

Anonymous wrote:Women need to raise the standards about what a s expected from men.

Anonymous wrote:Well if she dies in childbirth because so many OBGYNs have left red states, her DH will have a lot on his plate as a widower.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want a higher birth rate, baby bonuses don’t work. They need to address the housing problem, the economic uncertainty, and the unavailability of daycare/expense of daycare. Men also need to modernize their approach to marriage and family. (Gift article)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/baby-bonuses-fertility-planning-trump-aides-assess-ideas-to-boost-birthrate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU8.NtkN.WagWczUEi5e6&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

exactly who gets harmed with lower birthrates?

our nation is already overwhelmed with too many people.

please explain the problem with a lower birthrate?

What are you talking about? We don’t have enough people! If you had your dream and got rid of all the brown people who would pick our props? Who would care for our elderly? Who would build our houses? there aren’t enough white people to do the work.

Why don't we have enough people? It feels like you are advocating just importing a slave labor class and turning this country into a third world - what if these jobs actually payed a legit wage. I don't understand how having more people solves some of the major issues we have today with housing, pay, etc.

DP. You have to have a certain percentage of new people (by birth or immigration) to have economic growth. It’s economics 101. America has always had better than replacement rates. We are a big country. If you live in a city, there are plenty of people but rural areas are dying. Nobody is advocating for a slave labor class. America needs to overhaul/update/fix our immigration process. We need to prosecute employers who hire people here illegally but we need to have a better immigration system that ends employer’s ability to exploit people here illegally or in programs like H1 B. But American businesses, like Trump’s, love cheap labor.

But it's Environmental Science 101 that over-population is not sustainable nor desirable. And there is a reason that birth rates go down as countries develop.

The economics need to adapt. That's a much better solution than trying to coerce growth of the underclass.

Birthrates go down as people move to cities. It is less desirable to have a family in a tiny apartment and houses are very expensive. I just got back from very rural America and they’re losing people left and right. Funny having folks work remote would be great for small towns! But Trump et al are not really interested in this. They want to give Mormons and Catholics prizes for doing nothing different.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t get over how out of touch…lol $5000 they clearly don’t know how much the hospital bill is, or the cost of daycare

Anonymous wrote:White female Democrats are too busy basking in their emotional and financial independence to even consider becoming mothers.

Female Republicans will continue to have baby after baby over the coming years.

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you mandate that federal workers return to the office (leading many companies to follow suit) it's not going to encourage people to have more babies.

And left unsaid in the article: If we can't keep the birth rate high enough, the only alternative to maintain our population is immigration.

Anonymous wrote:Um they could also consider reducing environmental PFA chemicals, including from our drinking water, but they are doing the opposite. MAHA!