Anonymous wrote:When I grew up, three generations lived under one roof. But I recognize that American majority don’t love and care for their elders. I cannot believe how many are just so nonchalant about putting your parents in a facility.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As much as I love my mother, I love my wife more. But I also don’t think it’s a good idea for my mother to be living alone anymore.
That’s not normal. Your mother should be your top priority.
Anonymous wrote:As much as I love my mother, I love my wife more. But I also don’t think it’s a good idea for my mother to be living alone anymore.
Anonymous wrote:It’s so interesting that the word “smug” gets thrown around here any time anyone else can do something successfulkybthatbthrbposter could not.
You realize that that people all over the world share inter generational households? That doing that takes years of planning and communication and agreement? That there is a degree of family values at play? These families probably doesn’t see theirs in the same way as you do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s so interesting that the word “smug” gets thrown around here any time anyone else can do something successfulkybthatbthrbposter could not.
You realize that that people all over the world share inter generational households? That doing that takes years of planning and communication and agreement? That there is a degree of family values at play? These families probably doesn’t see theirs in the same way as you do.
The ones being referred to as smug are the ones that have never done this and judge others that can’t or are unable to. More power to those that have successfully lived this way but it doesn’t mean a person loves their parents less or more than the next. It’s not a competition. Everyone has to do what works for them. Attacking someone’s ‘values’ because they can’t live with someone else (for whatever reason) doesn’t sound very kind. You can’t generalize when it comes to these situations or put yourself on a higher moral ground. Some people have abusive family members, some people don’t have the money or resources. Nobody is superior in this situation, you don’t get a prize for doing this.
I wanted to add that I come from this type of culture where they say it’s about their ‘values’ but if you talk to most of the people actually doing the caregiving, they generally feel forced into the situation because of cultural expectations and there is a lot of resentment brewing under the surface.
I’ve both lived with my elderly parents and separate form them, so I speak from both aspects. As much as I would love to do the maximum for everyone, it’s not always physically or emotionally possible.
But kudos to you for your ‘family values’. Clearly the rest of us are lacking.
Who said anything about lacking? Some families value inter generational households, some value making sure older members are placed in specialized housing, etc. Some don’t consider it at all. But in general, families have a set of values that they follow through with with regards to both elder and child care. It’s not a judgment- different families have different values on this.
I’m not really sure about why you’re so prickly about this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s so interesting that the word “smug” gets thrown around here any time anyone else can do something successfulkybthatbthrbposter could not.
You realize that that people all over the world share inter generational households? That doing that takes years of planning and communication and agreement? That there is a degree of family values at play? These families probably doesn’t see theirs in the same way as you do.
The ones being referred to as smug are the ones that have never done this and judge others that can’t or are unable to. More power to those that have successfully lived this way but it doesn’t mean a person loves their parents less or more than the next. It’s not a competition. Everyone has to do what works for them. Attacking someone’s ‘values’ because they can’t live with someone else (for whatever reason) doesn’t sound very kind. You can’t generalize when it comes to these situations or put yourself on a higher moral ground. Some people have abusive family members, some people don’t have the money or resources. Nobody is superior in this situation, you don’t get a prize for doing this.
I wanted to add that I come from this type of culture where they say it’s about their ‘values’ but if you talk to most of the people actually doing the caregiving, they generally feel forced into the situation because of cultural expectations and there is a lot of resentment brewing under the surface.
I’ve both lived with my elderly parents and separate form them, so I speak from both aspects. As much as I would love to do the maximum for everyone, it’s not always physically or emotionally possible.
But kudos to you for your ‘family values’. Clearly the rest of us are lacking.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s so interesting that the word “smug” gets thrown around here any time anyone else can do something successfulkybthatbthrbposter could not.
You realize that that people all over the world share inter generational households? That doing that takes years of planning and communication and agreement? That there is a degree of family values at play? These families probably doesn’t see theirs in the same way as you do.
The ones being referred to as smug are the ones that have never done this and judge others that can’t or are unable to. More power to those that have successfully lived this way but it doesn’t mean a person loves their parents less or more than the next. It’s not a competition. Everyone has to do what works for them. Attacking someone’s ‘values’ because they can’t live with someone else (for whatever reason) doesn’t sound very kind. You can’t generalize when it comes to these situations or put yourself on a higher moral ground. Some people have abusive family members, some people don’t have the money or resources. Nobody is superior in this situation, you don’t get a prize for doing this.
Anonymous wrote:It’s so interesting that the word “smug” gets thrown around here any time anyone else can do something successfulkybthatbthrbposter could not.
You realize that that people all over the world share inter generational households? That doing that takes years of planning and communication and agreement? That there is a degree of family values at play? These families probably doesn’t see theirs in the same way as you do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this post is real. OP never came back to give details and I think it is meant to stir up wife over mother drama. However, I will play along. Things like this needs to be talked about. My husband and I talked about this before marrying, while engaged. We wanted to make sure we were both on the same page. Luckily, we both agree that we will be taking our parents in. It is important to us. Financially, it also makes sense. In addition, my husband works from home and some flexibility in his schedule and I am a teacher and have summers off so that is a help too. We would do an assisted living home only if necessary. But do what works for everyone including the one that needs care. They need a say too.
Have you actually taken your parents in? Or are you just talking about it so you can brag to everyone how generous and loving you are?
Key is here that this has been discussed and both partners agree on taking parents in well ahead of time. In OPs case, mother’s needs are imminent and it doesn’t sound like a discussion had been had previously. This is a basic values issue that should have been sorted out long before the actual need arose.
My best friend is a woman in her 70s. Her daughter and her SIL have purchased a house that can easily be converted to have an IL unit if and when the time is right. In the mean time, their college aged kids have a lot of extra space for friends and the like. His parents will be going with his brother and SIL. Finances are open and sorted out. It’s brilliant, really.
As I asked above, has that poster (you?) actually lived with their parents at any point? Or are they just discussing it and ‘sorting it out’ beforehand without any actual experience? It’s very easy to pat oneself on the back when you haven’t actually had the lived experience of OP or many of the other people that have already experienced it. Good for you for judging OP and the other posters that have different lived experiences and situations. You have no clue what anyone else’s life is like and judging them for not ‘sorting it out beforehand’.
I’ve actually had my parents and sibling move in with my spouse and kids at different times, and it very nearly destroyed my marriage and had long term emotional impact on my children. Maybe that’s selfish of me to focus on my kids and not center my parents forever.
But now everyone has a healthier relationship with just a little distance. Obviously some people don’t have a choice but to live together but I’m sure those people that are actually experiencing this instead of ‘discussing it beforehand’ would tell you it’s not as easy as just talking about it with your spouse and patting yourself on the back about how generous you are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Get an apartment near your house and live there with your mother. You can still spend a lot of time at your family home with your wife.
This is 100% what I'd tell my DH to do. He and his sister could trade off. But there is NO WAY I'd let one of his parents move into our home. One is anxiety ridden and one is insanely critical. Neither are flexible. I'd be fine if that meant he needed to spend less time with me to care for them. But *I* will not be doing their care.
My parents are much easier people, and I still would not move them in either. So there's that.