Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 12:22     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:I do not feel personally persecuted but I’ve noticed that there are quite a few people out there who are totally cool with stereotyping and saying that all Christians are hateful bigots who believe the world was created 6000 years ago and humans lived side by side with dinosaurs. I have relatives who really are like this (I do not attend the same church as they do) but anti-Christian people will find examples of this mindset and paint all Christians with the same brush. And feel empowered to do so, while they would be quick to cry out if someone expressed similarly sourced sentiments about any other group.

I suspect that people stereotype because of the amplified noise from right wingers, the kind of people who attend churches where the US flag is displayed among crosses.
There are a lot of voices and congregations out there challenging the current status quo, but they aren’t given the same attention, so they aren’t delivered to your doorstep, and you keep on confirming your own bias.


Those stereotypes of bigotry exist because the bigots are being elevated and amplified, and because they are inserting their bigotry into state and federal politics. Wealthy and powerful organizations, individuals and interests are backing the bigots. Rather than being upset about reactions to this that manifest as stereo types, you should be more upset about the realities that the reactions are based on.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 11:58     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want your Jesus all up in my Government, I want my Government (even this pathetic Administration) all up in your Jesus.

TAX THE CHURCHES!


Yep. Not only that I want prosecution for violation of said Jesus commandments and policies from the Bible. Let’s start at the top with Trump.


You can take your bible thumping rump back to the rock you crawled out from under with all of your other cult members. Your probably old and that's why your religious. The good thing about death is that our older generations of Christians, Muslims, and Jews are dying out and the younger generations are becoming smarter and smarter while realizing the silly religions of their parents and grandparents have become nothing more than platforms for hate based on made up events from thousands of years ago.

I say good riddance to the hate!
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 11:54     Subject: Re:Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:


+100. No one has problems with Christians. We have problem that some think they can evangelize there beliefs or thoughts and others have to be okay with them. We have problem with you picking and choosing your beliefs and practices as convenient for whatever narrative of the day.

You want to practice Christianity in your home, go for it. You want to do it in church, great. You want to teach it in a Christian school that you or your church pay for, good for you.

You don’t get to tell others they are living life wrong when you have no proof. You don’t get to outshine and demonize other religions. You don’t get to force the rest us to agree with your religion.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 11:45     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-tells-employees-report-one-162428741.html

We are at slippery slope time. If someone is pro-choice, does that make them anti-Christian? If someone calls out the crimes in the Administration, does that make them anti-Christian? If anyone is Jewish, Hindu, Muslim or any other religion, does that make them anti-Christian?


I mean, we were asked report or call out other biases. Why is this different?

Although I think your examples are a little hyperbolic.


What would be an example of anti Christian bias please? We all have Sundays and Christian holidays off. I’ve never seen anyone bat an eye if someone leaves early for a Lent service. Does anyone get teased for celebrating Christmas or having Easter dinner?? Plenty of Christian holiday themed food and supplies in stock in our stores. Has anyone brought a workplace claim of anti christianism? What on earth would this even be???


It’s whatever Rubio deems to be anti Christian. I’m guessing there will be no written definition. I worry that being gay will be anti Christian to them.


That’s right, he’ll know it when he sees it. We’ve heard that before.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 11:43     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know what, I’m fine with no PTO for Christmas if some lady is mad that she doesn’t get PTO for Good Friday.

Eliminate all religious federal holidays.
Eliminate church marriages for civil unions.

That’s the only way Christians won’t feel attacked. I lived in China and didn’t get PTO for Christmas. They only have national federal holidays, which for us would be July 4th and maybe Thanksgiving.


Do you espouse the same for Chinese holidays for which people in China are given the day off? Nations often have cultural holidays with religious roots.


You tell me what those are, I’ll wait….


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_China

The festival was long marked as a cultural festival in China and is a public holiday in China, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan. The People's Republic of China's government established in 1949 did not initially recognize the Dragon Boat Festival as a public holiday but reintroduced it in 2008 alongside two other festivals in a bid to boost traditional culture.

In some regions of China, people, especially children, wear silk ribbons or threads of 5 colors (blue, red, yellow, white, and black, representing the five elements) on the day of the Dragon Boat Festival.[15] People believe that this will help keep evil away.[15]

Other common activities include hanging up icons of Zhong Kui (a mythic guardian figure),


Thank you for proving my point. These are NOT religious holidays. So let’s eliminate Christmas if you’re going to whinge about Good Friday. Or, if you want to argue that a few of these have very distant roots in Buddhism, then let’s keep Christmas and give American women their rights to abortion back, which is exactly what China allows. Mmmkay.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 11:40     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:If you want your Jesus all up in my Government, I want my Government (even this pathetic Administration) all up in your Jesus.

TAX THE CHURCHES!


Yep. Not only that I want prosecution for violation of said Jesus commandments and policies from the Bible. Let’s start at the top with Trump.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 11:33     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
You can ask for the day off for religious observation. You can pre work comp time in order to take time off for religious observation. Has anyone ever denied you time off for religious observation in the government? Then they are in violation of existing federal policy, although it’s possible that the VSG got rid of that when he rescinded a billion EOs in January.

You ain’t persecuted. I’m taking Friday off for that very reason. I have also granted people leave for Eid and the High Holy Days.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 11:18     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People love to guffaw about this, but there is a total double standard here: ant-Christian bias is real and widespread. I am a practicing Christian in an environment with very few of them. In virtually every setting I have been in, people have made unambiguously hostile comments about the tenants of the religion and the people who practice it. I have found it virtually impossible to take off work on holidays that are important to practicing Christians but lack the lay resonance of Christmas (think Good Friday, Palm Sunday).

This response will undoubtedly provoke a torrent of meanspirited remarks from people who disagree with my premise but lack the self awareness to understand that they substantiate it.


Oh, the irony of this post. You do realize that Christianity has held a privileged position in the US for decades, and with a changing population, it's stating to lose that privilege. It's ironic that you are blasting people for a lack of self-awareness, when you can't see how movement towards equality is not anti-Christian or oppression. Perhaps it's you that needs better self-awareness on what is actually occurring.


Is it a movement toward equality? Or just an opportunity to publicly demonize a group?


They want all government workers to be loyal to MAGA and Project 2025. Hence, they want employees who are Christian Nationalists and have begun to weed out the non loyalists one bias at a time.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 11:09     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know what, I’m fine with no PTO for Christmas if some lady is mad that she doesn’t get PTO for Good Friday.

Eliminate all religious federal holidays.
Eliminate church marriages for civil unions.

That’s the only way Christians won’t feel attacked. I lived in China and didn’t get PTO for Christmas. They only have national federal holidays, which for us would be July 4th and maybe Thanksgiving.


Do you espouse the same for Chinese holidays for which people in China are given the day off? Nations often have cultural holidays with religious roots.


You tell me what those are, I’ll wait….


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_China

The festival was long marked as a cultural festival in China and is a public holiday in China, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan. The People's Republic of China's government established in 1949 did not initially recognize the Dragon Boat Festival as a public holiday but reintroduced it in 2008 alongside two other festivals in a bid to boost traditional culture.

In some regions of China, people, especially children, wear silk ribbons or threads of 5 colors (blue, red, yellow, white, and black, representing the five elements) on the day of the Dragon Boat Festival.[15] People believe that this will help keep evil away.[15]

Other common activities include hanging up icons of Zhong Kui (a mythic guardian figure),
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 10:36     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-tells-employees-report-one-162428741.html

We are at slippery slope time. If someone is pro-choice, does that make them anti-Christian? If someone calls out the crimes in the Administration, does that make them anti-Christian? If anyone is Jewish, Hindu, Muslim or any other religion, does that make them anti-Christian?


I mean, we were asked report or call out other biases. Why is this different?

Although I think your examples are a little hyperbolic.


DP. It's different in part because Rubio is asking for anonymous reports of anti-Christian bias: "will collect examples of anti-Christian bias through anonymous employee report forms." This has whiffs of Stasi-type behavior. If you don't know who the Stasi were, do yourself a favor and read about it:

The Stasi, East Germany's Ministry for State Security, relied heavily on a network of informants, also known as "unofficial collaborators" or "IMs," to maintain its surveillance and control over the population. By 1995, over 174,000 IMs had been identified, a number that some estimates suggest could have been as high as 500,000. This network, which included people from all walks of life, was a key tool in the Stasi's system of oppression.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 10:28     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:Christian: says something hateful about the "LGBTQIA" community.

Co-Worker points out that it's not nice.

Co-worker reported for anti-Christian bias.

Christian asks if you went to Church this weekend.

Co-worker says they aren't religious and don't attend church.

Co-worker reported for anti-Christian bias.



+1 That’s exactly what Evangelicals want.
There were a lot of people from Hitler’s army who settled in the US South.
Don’t believe me?
There is an early episode of Hoarders where the 60 year old guy is showing family photos of his Dad in uniform in Nazi Germany. His father had beaten him mercilessly and when he was 10 (?) killed his pet rabbit he loved, served it to him for dinner, and told him halfway through just to enjoy his son’s agony. His older sister backed him up on what a horrible guy her Dad was.
I’m convinced a lot of the Nazis in the US joined the Evangelical church.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 09:39     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-tells-employees-report-one-162428741.html

We are at slippery slope time. If someone is pro-choice, does that make them anti-Christian? If someone calls out the crimes in the Administration, does that make them anti-Christian? If anyone is Jewish, Hindu, Muslim or any other religion, does that make them anti-Christian?


I mean, we were asked report or call out other biases. Why is this different?

Although I think your examples are a little hyperbolic.


What would be an example of anti Christian bias please? We all have Sundays and Christian holidays off. I’ve never seen anyone bat an eye if someone leaves early for a Lent service. Does anyone get teased for celebrating Christmas or having Easter dinner?? Plenty of Christian holiday themed food and supplies in stock in our stores. Has anyone brought a workplace claim of anti christianism? What on earth would this even be???


It’s whatever Rubio deems to be anti Christian. I’m guessing there will be no written definition. I worry that being gay will be anti Christian to them.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 09:24     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Christian: says something hateful about the "LGBTQIA" community.

Co-Worker points out that it's not nice.

Co-worker reported for anti-Christian bias.

Christian asks if you went to Church this weekend.

Co-worker says they aren't religious and don't attend church.

Co-worker reported for anti-Christian bias.


Whut?


pp here- I believe it's meant to further legitimize discrimination against the gay and trans communities (you know, for "religious reasons") and many of the of the Evangelical people are I know are offended if you express that you are not religious.


So hypocriticals are now evidence of discrimination? If you want to play that game, then any criticism of someone else's deeply held religious beliefs should be considered hate speech. See how this works?


pp here- in the workplace. Religion doesn't belong in the workplace--most especially in the public workplace. I don't discuss, criticize or advertise religion at my job in the public sector.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 09:24     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know what, I’m fine with no PTO for Christmas if some lady is mad that she doesn’t get PTO for Good Friday.

Eliminate all religious federal holidays.
Eliminate church marriages for civil unions.

That’s the only way Christians won’t feel attacked. I lived in China and didn’t get PTO for Christmas. They only have national federal holidays, which for us would be July 4th and maybe Thanksgiving.


Do you espouse the same for Chinese holidays for which people in China are given the day off? Nations often have cultural holidays with religious roots.


You tell me what those are, I’ll wait….
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2025 09:14     Subject: Now we have to be on the lookout for "anti-Christian" bias
I do not feel personally persecuted but I’ve noticed that there are quite a few people out there who are totally cool with stereotyping and saying that all Christians are hateful bigots who believe the world was created 6000 years ago and humans lived side by side with dinosaurs. I have relatives who really are like this (I do not attend the same church as they do) but anti-Christian people will find examples of this mindset and paint all Christians with the same brush. And feel empowered to do so, while they would be quick to cry out if someone expressed similarly sourced sentiments about any other group.

I suspect that people stereotype because of the amplified noise from right wingers, the kind of people who attend churches where the US flag is displayed among crosses.
There are a lot of voices and congregations out there challenging the current status quo, but they aren’t given the same attention, so they aren’t delivered to your doorstep, and you keep on confirming your own bias.