Anonymous
04/12/2025 14:21
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Pros and cons to freedom. I’d rather people overstay their visa than live in a police state.
I'd rather live where people know better than to break laws. Law-abiding, hardworking citizens who don't break laws will be fine.
oh really. Tell that to a black man who gets pulled over and roughed up.
I bet you've broken laws.. parking, speeding, etc.. You just want to pick and choose which laws *you* think should be followed.
Like following immigration law?
The article said that she had an active asylum case pending and a legal work permit.
Also what a mom… in the midst of that awful and terrifying situation, she was calm and kept trying to reassure her scared daughter.
I hate what our country is doing to immigrants right now. They make our country what it is and our country is NOT going after criminals. They are going after all immigrants (except Elon and Melania).
It's well known that starting an asylum case that will drag on for years due to a backlog is a good way to get a work permit. Most do not qualify for asylum. The article also states that she is a known member of a gang.
You conveniently left out this sentence that follows the claim that she’s a gang member. “Her attorney says the government has not presented any evidence of any gang affiliation. She says it also hasn't presented any information detailing why she was arrested.”
No one objects to the government removing actual gang members, but they’re removing people with no evidence of gang membership and no due process. And that’s a problem for everyone in this country, citizen or not.
It was left out because of course her attorney would say that. It's kind of her job.
Remember way back when everyone was melting down because that transplant doctor was denied re entry into the country only to find out later that she was posing for pictures with terrorists? So you think that this 51 year old lady was just being picked up for nothing? Of all the people here illegally, that's who they chose?
Anonymous
04/12/2025 14:06
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Pros and cons to freedom. I’d rather people overstay their visa than live in a police state.
I'd rather live where people know better than to break laws. Law-abiding, hardworking citizens who don't break laws will be fine.
oh really. Tell that to a black man who gets pulled over and roughed up.
I bet you've broken laws.. parking, speeding, etc.. You just want to pick and choose which laws *you* think should be followed.
Like following immigration law?
The article said that she had an active asylum case pending and a legal work permit.
Also what a mom… in the midst of that awful and terrifying situation, she was calm and kept trying to reassure her scared daughter.
I hate what our country is doing to immigrants right now. They make our country what it is and our country is NOT going after criminals. They are going after all immigrants (except Elon and Melania).
It's well known that starting an asylum case that will drag on for years due to a backlog is a good way to get a work permit. Most do not qualify for asylum. The article also states that she is a known member of a gang.
You conveniently left out this sentence that follows the claim that she’s a gang member. “Her attorney says the government has not presented any evidence of any gang affiliation. She says it also hasn't presented any information detailing why she was arrested.”
No one objects to the government removing actual gang members, but they’re removing people with no evidence of gang membership and no due process. And that’s a problem for everyone in this country, citizen or not.
+1 well said
Anonymous
04/12/2025 14:04
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Pros and cons to freedom. I’d rather people overstay their visa than live in a police state.
I'd rather live where people know better than to break laws. Law-abiding, hardworking citizens who don't break laws will be fine.
oh really. Tell that to a black man who gets pulled over and roughed up.
I bet you've broken laws.. parking, speeding, etc.. You just want to pick and choose which laws *you* think should be followed.
Like following immigration law?
The article said that she had an active asylum case pending and a legal work permit.
Also what a mom… in the midst of that awful and terrifying situation, she was calm and kept trying to reassure her scared daughter.
I hate what our country is doing to immigrants right now. They make our country what it is and our country is NOT going after criminals. They are going after all immigrants (except Elon and Melania).
It's well known that starting an asylum case that will drag on for years due to a backlog is a good way to get a work permit. Most do not qualify for asylum. The article also states that she is a known member of a gang.
You conveniently left out this sentence that follows the claim that she’s a gang member. “Her attorney says the government has not presented any evidence of any gang affiliation. She says it also hasn't presented any information detailing why she was arrested.”
No one objects to the government removing actual gang members, but they’re removing people with no evidence of gang membership and no due process. And that’s a problem for everyone in this country, citizen or not.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 14:00
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure the MAGA Hispanics thinks it's fine, even as one day, they may get swept up because they happen to look like an alleged MS13 associate. MAGA/s
This is indeed scary. If I were Hispanic, I would be scared to leave my house.
Trump got elected because he said he would do this and now he has to follow through. MS-13 is just an excuse to deport brown people.
Do we know of any illegal/undocumented persons who are white, who have been taken into custody like this under Trump's 2nd term?
There are LOADS of illegal white people in America. How many have been arrested and deported recently?
There's this Canadian woman.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney
And this German tourist.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/ice-german-tourist-detained-immigration
They also spent a lot of time and effort going after some young korean woman until a judge told them to knock it off.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:50
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Anyone who supports Trump doesn’t give a single shit about enforcing the laws of our country.
I agree but if Biden hadn't screwed up on border policy we wouldn't have Trump today.
I am very upset about Biden. Him personally, and the oddities that happened under his leadership. I know it may sounds petty, but I need someone to admit mistakes (or at least one, like he was not well) before I can move on.
Biden was a GREAT president.
How can you tell?
Look at the Trump crap show now.
We were TOO STUPID to know how good we had it.
Truth.
I've lost so much money since Trump took over with his toddler action. I am sorry to insult toddlers this way.
I just spent time in the ET with a dementia-addled parent and they are just like Trump. Shouting at everyone and throwing tantrums and peeing their pants.
Trump is a dementia-addled person who was never smart to start with.
Those who like Trump prob had daddy issues and see him as their strong daddy.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:47
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Guess what? Firing the people who do the paperwork for those on temporary protected status will not speed up the process.
+100 Trump is good at pointing out long-standing problems other politicians shy away from but boy is he terrible at fixing them!
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:46
Subject: ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I voted for Harris, hate the Orange Cheeto and even I think she should have gotten out of the car. They were calm & patient with her. It had obviously been going on for awhile before the daughter started filming.
+1 People need to obey laws and do what police ask.
People have certain protections under the law, including the 4th amendment which protects people from unreasonable searches and seizures by the government. For example, the police can't enter your home if you don't invite them in unless they have a warrant or believe someone is in imminent danger.
If a police officer orders you to step out of the vehicle, you are legally required to cooperate. The police can tell someone to step out of their car for any reason. There is Supreme Court case law (Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 1977) that gives cops the authority to do this. Any decent lawyer with half a brain would tell someone that’s been pulled over to cooperate with the police and not resist. If a police officer tells you to step out and you refuse, you will be forcibly removed from the vehicle and arrested. If you roll up the window, they will break it open and proceed to arrest you. Needless to say, if you’re pulled over and told to step out of the car, just do it. The place to argue is the courtroom, not the side of the road. Noncompliance won’t get you anywhere but jail.
Are you from the DMV?
I assume you are from a rural area and perhaps not educated that ICE employees are not the police. ICE employees need a warrant signed by a real judge.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:45
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Pros and cons to freedom. I’d rather people overstay their visa than live in a police state.
I'd rather live where people know better than to break laws. Law-abiding, hardworking citizens who don't break laws will be fine.
oh really. Tell that to a black man who gets pulled over and roughed up.
I bet you've broken laws.. parking, speeding, etc.. You just want to pick and choose which laws *you* think should be followed.
Like following immigration law?
The article said that she had an active asylum case pending and a legal work permit.
Also what a mom… in the midst of that awful and terrifying situation, she was calm and kept trying to reassure her scared daughter.
I hate what our country is doing to immigrants right now. They make our country what it is and our country is NOT going after criminals. They are going after all immigrants (except Elon and Melania).
It's well known that starting an asylum case that will drag on for years due to a backlog is a good way to get a work permit. Most do not qualify for asylum. The article also states that she is a known member of a gang.
It’s known that ICE contractors are making up fake accusations to meet quotas. She is not a gang member.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:45
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Guess what? Firing the people who do the paperwork for those on temporary protected status will not speed up the process.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:43
Subject: ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:I voted for Harris, hate the Orange Cheeto and even I think she should have gotten out of the car. They were calm & patient with her. It had obviously been going on for awhile before the daughter started filming.
No. Not without a warrant. Go back to class.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:42
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
No, it is not legal to disappear people without a warrant signed by a judge.
Without a warrant, this is illegal. The US government is breaking the US law.
Without a warrant, this is illegal. The US government is breaking the US law.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:38
Subject: ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WTF???
Is this legal???
https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/maryland-woman-arrest-ice-immigration-el-salvador-berrios/
I can't believe it. Watch the video. It's heartbreaking. Horrifying.
I don't speak much Spanish, but it appears they didn't have a judicial warrant.
OMG. This is our country????
I'm sure you'd all be cheering if it were a grandma who had walked into the Capitol Building being terrorized by the FBI.
She refused to obey the orders of law enforcement and found out. When law enforcement tells you to get out of the car, there is no Constitutional right to refuse to obey them and sit in your car thinking your magic window shields you from following the instructions of law enforcement. She found out.
Not true. ICE does not have the same power as the police.
They need a warrant signed by a judge and not one of their fake pretend warrants.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 13:34
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Pros and cons to freedom. I’d rather people overstay their visa than live in a police state.
I'd rather live where people know better than to break laws. Law-abiding, hardworking citizens who don't break laws will be fine.
oh really. Tell that to a black man who gets pulled over and roughed up.
I bet you've broken laws.. parking, speeding, etc.. You just want to pick and choose which laws *you* think should be followed.
Like following immigration law?
The article said that she had an active asylum case pending and a legal work permit.
Also what a mom… in the midst of that awful and terrifying situation, she was calm and kept trying to reassure her scared daughter.
I hate what our country is doing to immigrants right now. They make our country what it is and our country is NOT going after criminals. They are going after all immigrants (except Elon and Melania).
It's well known that starting an asylum case that will drag on for years due to a backlog is a good way to get a work permit. Most do not qualify for asylum. The article also states that she is a known member of a gang.
Anonymous
04/12/2025 11:47
Subject: Re:ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump but why are so many people overstaying their visas? It's because people have been allowed to openly violate our laws for the past twenty-five years. Trump ran on enforcing immigration laws and that is a big part of why he won.
Anyone who supports Trump doesn’t give a single shit about enforcing the laws of our country.
I agree but if Biden hadn't screwed up on border policy we wouldn't have Trump today.
I am very upset about Biden. Him personally, and the oddities that happened under his leadership. I know it may sounds petty, but I need someone to admit mistakes (or at least one, like he was not well) before I can move on.
WTAF are you talking about? Our country is being sold to Russia by the worst SOB we’ve ever produced. Stop whining about Biden, it’s embarrassing and irrelevant.
Acknowledging past mistakes is the first step in avoiding repeating those past mistakes. We need a strong two term worthy POTUS elected in 2028 and anything less is unacceptable. If someone says "hey, let's nominate this 80 year old person" in 2028.... tell them to shove the eff off!
Just stop. Trump, Musk, and cronies literally dismantling our democracy while simultaneously crashing the economy has literally nothing to do with Biden, Harris, Obama, Bush, Clinton, or anyone else.
Stop pretending there was any reason it was rational for voters to put this guy in office a second time.
Stop trying to lump Trump and Biden in with real presidents like Obama, Bush, and Clinton. There is simply no comparison.
Don't believe me? Need to educate yourself? There is thing called Youtube where you can search and find videos of all previous presidential debates dating back to at least the 60s. Watch a few of the Trump/Biden debates from when they embarrassed the hell out of our country and then watch the debates between legitimate presidential candidates from the past.... No you won't do this because you prefer to live in your fantasy land where people continually try to justify their Trump/Biden mistakes!!
Anonymous
04/12/2025 11:18
Subject: ICS smashes car window to seize immigrant in Westminster, MD
This isn't going to make me mad. Shipping people off to a foreign concentration camp overnight without a hearing makes me very mad.