Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:26     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
I’m curious about Munro Verde - JF Cook campus. It looks like this year they offered 62 seats for K and last year only offers 25. Is this the result of an expansion, or we think them wanting to fill spots early and not go to the waitlist? We got in there but are leaning towards staying at our neighborhood school so just trying to see if there’s a sense of what’s going on.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 23:31     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
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Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.


I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.


Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.


There are different buckets based on how a school does preference. In your example those two kids aren't even in the same bucket. This is all crystal clear. It is in no way a mystery. Take Maury as an example. The order of preference is:

1. In-boundary w Sibling Attending
2. In-boundary w Sibling Offered
3. In-boundary
4. Sibling Attending
5. Sibling Offered
6. Proximity

My School DC is run VERY well and their website and supporting info is quite good. Would suggest taking a few minutes to review, PP.


Based on your example a kid with in boundary cannot get in before a kid with in boundary sibling attending. Someone told me they were waitlisted but other kids who only had in boundary were admitted. Hence my question to this “crystal clear” situation. But thanks for the condescension.


"Someone told you" something that didn't happen. My condescension is a reaction to people who prioritize neighborhood scuttlebutt over facts. In a world and city where facts and science and data are being discounted I have no patience for it. What you were told did not happen as long as everyone's addresses were correct, no one matched at a school higher on their WL and no one qualified for equitable access. In the Maury example 3 IB kids were admitted from EA. Maybe you should confront the person "you heard" got in with only IB and demand to know their financial situation?

What happens a lot around lottery time is people who didn't get a match get bitter about what other people got.

The lottery data has been posted. What school was this? You can see for yourself the preferences that were and were not admitted.


Not exactly. The tableau shows you which groups matched but not how many more applicants there were in that group who did not match.

Using the Maury preferences as an example. Let’s say there are 10 preK4 spots for the lottery; all the rest taken up by returning kids. 4 slots go to IB/sib, 6 go to IB. You don’t actually know how many IB kids didn’t get a spot. You can assume there were only 4 kids with IB/sib pref and they all got a spot (except in the case of being matched elsewhere but sib matched so now they’re on the WL). But you can’t tell from Tableau whether there were 11 IB pref only kids and 1 got shut out or if there were 100 IB pref only kids and 94 got shut out.

Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 16:35     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.


I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.


Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.


There are different buckets based on how a school does preference. In your example those two kids aren't even in the same bucket. This is all crystal clear. It is in no way a mystery. Take Maury as an example. The order of preference is:

1. In-boundary w Sibling Attending
2. In-boundary w Sibling Offered
3. In-boundary
4. Sibling Attending
5. Sibling Offered
6. Proximity

My School DC is run VERY well and their website and supporting info is quite good. Would suggest taking a few minutes to review, PP.


Based on your example a kid with in boundary cannot get in before a kid with in boundary sibling attending. Someone told me they were waitlisted but other kids who only had in boundary were admitted. Hence my question to this “crystal clear” situation. But thanks for the condescension.


"Someone told you" something that didn't happen. My condescension is a reaction to people who prioritize neighborhood scuttlebutt over facts. In a world and city where facts and science and data are being discounted I have no patience for it. What you were told did not happen as long as everyone's addresses were correct, no one matched at a school higher on their WL and no one qualified for equitable access. In the Maury example 3 IB kids were admitted from EA. Maybe you should confront the person "you heard" got in with only IB and demand to know their financial situation?

What happens a lot around lottery time is people who didn't get a match get bitter about what other people got.

The lottery data has been posted. What school was this? You can see for yourself the preferences that were and were not admitted.


It is possible that people are purposely omitting information but this scenario happened at our IB as well (IB got in when sibling + IB did not). It's possible the sibling preference people matched at a school higher on the list, didn't mention this, and then tried to WL immediately after. No idea. But I wouldn't immediately write off someone because you think someone is jealous.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 12:15     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.


I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.


Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.


There are different buckets based on how a school does preference. In your example those two kids aren't even in the same bucket. This is all crystal clear. It is in no way a mystery. Take Maury as an example. The order of preference is:

1. In-boundary w Sibling Attending
2. In-boundary w Sibling Offered
3. In-boundary
4. Sibling Attending
5. Sibling Offered
6. Proximity

My School DC is run VERY well and their website and supporting info is quite good. Would suggest taking a few minutes to review, PP.


Based on your example a kid with in boundary cannot get in before a kid with in boundary sibling attending. Someone told me they were waitlisted but other kids who only had in boundary were admitted. Hence my question to this “crystal clear” situation. But thanks for the condescension.


"Someone told you" something that didn't happen. My condescension is a reaction to people who prioritize neighborhood scuttlebutt over facts. In a world and city where facts and science and data are being discounted I have no patience for it. What you were told did not happen as long as everyone's addresses were correct, no one matched at a school higher on their WL and no one qualified for equitable access. In the Maury example 3 IB kids were admitted from EA. Maybe you should confront the person "you heard" got in with only IB and demand to know their financial situation?

What happens a lot around lottery time is people who didn't get a match get bitter about what other people got.

The lottery data has been posted. What school was this? You can see for yourself the preferences that were and were not admitted.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 11:30     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.


I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.


Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.


There are different buckets based on how a school does preference. In your example those two kids aren't even in the same bucket. This is all crystal clear. It is in no way a mystery. Take Maury as an example. The order of preference is:

1. In-boundary w Sibling Attending
2. In-boundary w Sibling Offered
3. In-boundary
4. Sibling Attending
5. Sibling Offered
6. Proximity

My School DC is run VERY well and their website and supporting info is quite good. Would suggest taking a few minutes to review, PP.


Based on your example a kid with in boundary cannot get in before a kid with in boundary sibling attending. Someone told me they were waitlisted but other kids who only had in boundary were admitted. Hence my question to this “crystal clear” situation. But thanks for the condescension.


If “in-boundary with sibling” matched somewhere else, they can’t match at the school in question, because no one can match at two schools. So the plain in-boundary kids match, and “in-boundary with sibling” winds up at the top of the waitlist.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 11:20     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.


I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.


Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.


There are different buckets based on how a school does preference. In your example those two kids aren't even in the same bucket. This is all crystal clear. It is in no way a mystery. Take Maury as an example. The order of preference is:

1. In-boundary w Sibling Attending
2. In-boundary w Sibling Offered
3. In-boundary
4. Sibling Attending
5. Sibling Offered
6. Proximity

My School DC is run VERY well and their website and supporting info is quite good. Would suggest taking a few minutes to review, PP.


Based on your example a kid with in boundary cannot get in before a kid with in boundary sibling attending. Someone told me they were waitlisted but other kids who only had in boundary were admitted. Hence my question to this “crystal clear” situation. But thanks for the condescension.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 10:20     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.


I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.


Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.


There are different buckets based on how a school does preference. In your example those two kids aren't even in the same bucket. This is all crystal clear. It is in no way a mystery. Take Maury as an example. The order of preference is:

1. In-boundary w Sibling Attending
2. In-boundary w Sibling Offered
3. In-boundary
4. Sibling Attending
5. Sibling Offered
6. Proximity

My School DC is run VERY well and their website and supporting info is quite good. Would suggest taking a few minutes to review, PP.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 10:12     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:There is a special waitlist rule for siblings:
“After being matched an applicant will be placed on the waitlist for any school their sibling is matched to even if the school was ranked below where they are matched.”
https://www.myschooldc.org/how-waitlists-work


What this does not say is whether or not they are placed on the WL based on their original lottery draw or whether they are added in after the fact based on post lottery number. In either case they'd be in sibling preference list but where on the list would change based on which lottery number/place was used.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 09:55     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
There is a special waitlist rule for siblings:
“After being matched an applicant will be placed on the waitlist for any school their sibling is matched to even if the school was ranked below where they are matched.”
https://www.myschooldc.org/how-waitlists-work
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 09:43     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.


I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.


Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2025 09:11     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.


I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2025 22:12     Subject: MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It looks like MacArthur is a clear easy post-lottery add for any 9th grader who didn't match


But why spend 2 hours round trip going all the way across town to a poorly performing title 1 school when you can just go to a similar one in your neighborhood that down the street or less then 10 minutes away?


Wow...


I mean… is the PP wrong? What is inherently better about MacArthur than the schools people are zoned for? The people trying to send their kids across town to MacA are the “racists” (scare quotes) not the poster merely pointing out that a school in ward 3 is not better just because it’s in ward 3.


Is this a serious question?

School, math 4+, English 4+
MacArthur, 11%, 40%
Eastern, 1%, 15%
Dunbar, 1%, 14%
Roosevelt, 0%, 12%

That’s why.



Sorry but that yield it not enough to subject my kid to a 2 hour plus commute in addition to having to supplement just to stay in the city.

But hey, you do you.


It was a good response to the question about why to choose it over your neighborhood school. If you'd move instead, that was not about you.



I think you are missing the point. The point was not moving but that the school was too far AND you would still have to supplement.

1 out of 10 kids just on grade level in math, which is the floor, is not something most families would have their kid do a 2 and 1/2 hour commute to go to. Heck, I would not even do that for a school with even majority at grade level.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2025 22:04     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.


I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2025 22:00     Subject: Re:MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2025 20:05     Subject: MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like MacArthur is a clear easy post-lottery add for any 9th grader who didn't match


But why spend 2 hours round trip going all the way across town to a poorly performing title 1 school when you can just go to a similar one in your neighborhood that down the street or less then 10 minutes away?


Wow...


I mean… is the PP wrong? What is inherently better about MacArthur than the schools people are zoned for? The people trying to send their kids across town to MacA are the “racists” (scare quotes) not the poster merely pointing out that a school in ward 3 is not better just because it’s in ward 3.


Is this a serious question?

School, math 4+, English 4+
MacArthur, 11%, 40%
Eastern, 1%, 15%
Dunbar, 1%, 14%
Roosevelt, 0%, 12%

That’s why.



Sorry but that yield it not enough to subject my kid to a 2 hour plus commute in addition to having to supplement just to stay in the city.

But hey, you do you.


It was a good response to the question about why to choose it over your neighborhood school. If you'd move instead, that was not about you.