If you're brown or even the slightest bit ethnic looking, I'd strongly reconsider traveling outside of the US because I have heard so many stories of ICE detainments of US citizens when returning back to the US.

I just watched a video of a NY woman returning from a spring break trip. Her husband is blonde & white. She's Italian and olive skinned with dark brown/black hair. She was pulled by ICE and held for 3 hours for questioning and review she said.

A coworker returning from a work trip abroad was detained. She's a Latina who was born in the US to parents who were also born in the US. Totally legal. Our team is reorganizing things because she's refusing to travel for the foreseeable future, and I don't blame her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can a judge just make this guy undeportable?

Because after a 2-day hearing a judge issued an order. It's the law. Don't like it, then change the law. But stop violating it.

On October 10, 2019, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was granted withholding of removal
pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1232(b)(3)(A), after the immigration judge agreed that he had established
it was more likely than not that he would be persecuted by gangs in El Salvador because of a
protected ground.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.0.pdf

It's pretty obvious that judges don't work for American interests, so it's good to see them ignored.

An El Salvadoran got sent to El Salvador and people are freaking out.

He was sent to a gulag; it's not like he's hanging on the beach.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can a judge just make this guy undeportable?

Because after a 2-day hearing a judge issued an order. It's the law. Don't like it, then change the law. But stop violating it.

On October 10, 2019, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was granted withholding of removal
pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1232(b)(3)(A), after the immigration judge agreed that he had established
it was more likely than not that he would be persecuted by gangs in El Salvador because of a
protected ground.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.0.pdf

It's pretty obvious that judges don't work for American interests, so it's good to see them ignored.

An El Salvadoran got sent to El Salvador and people are freaking out.

You're an idiot. Even if he should've been deported, he should not have been deported to a prison with gang members, dummy. That's what happens without due process.

If you ever go to a foreign country, you better hope you don't get caught up accidentally and sent to prison. Oh wait, you probably have never left your mama's basement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.

Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true

He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.

He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.

TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.

+1 ICE was lazy and profiled Hispanics. We told you the Trump admin would profile all Hispanics. You could end up in El Salvador, and Trump admin would let you languish there for years or forever, even if you don't belong there.

Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported back to El Salvador in 2025 after living in the U.S. for over 15 years. He had withholding of removal since 2019 — which is temporary protection — but he never applied for a green card, even though he had six years to do so. That decision cost him everything.

Let’s not forget: he entered the U.S. illegally, then waited five years before even applying for asylum — conveniently right around the time TPS rules were shifting in his favor. If he was truly in danger from gangs, why wait so long while living safely in the U.S.? It looks more like a gamble based on timing, not urgent fear.

Now, he’s back in El Salvador — a country that the U.S. currently sees as safe, with gang crackdowns, historic low crime rates, and no active TPS coverage for him. Whether he was really in MS-13 or not is still unclear, but you’ve got to wonder — why didn’t he apply for a green card? Was he involved in something in the U.S. that made him ineligible? We may never know, but it raises serious questions.

ICE admitted the deportation wasn’t supposed to happen — but he’s not coming back, and honestly, the case isn’t as black-and-white as it’s being painted.

Lesson here: If you have asylum or withholding, don’t play the waiting game. Apply for your green card as soon as you can. The system isn’t perfect, but sitting around hoping policies shift your way is a huge risk — and Kilmar’s story proves how fast it can all fall apart.

Well, he probably never thought that he would be mistaken for MS13, which he is not a part of.

Lesson to Trump Hispanics: carry your US passport with you at all times. If you don't have one, get one. Otherwise, the Trump admin may "mistakenly" deport you to El Salvador thinking you're MS13.

Don't say you weren't warned.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can a judge just make this guy undeportable?

Because after a 2-day hearing a judge issued an order. It's the law. Don't like it, then change the law. But stop violating it.

On October 10, 2019, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was granted withholding of removal
pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1232(b)(3)(A), after the immigration judge agreed that he had established
it was more likely than not that he would be persecuted by gangs in El Salvador because of a
protected ground.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.0.pdf

It's pretty obvious that judges don't work for American interests, so it's good to see them ignored.

An El Salvadoran got sent to El Salvador and people are freaking out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.

Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true

He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.

He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.

TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.

Anonymous wrote:The reason people are trying to defend this is they fear that because of a small handful of cases like this, all enforcement and deportation actions will be stopped. Which is an understandable fear. Hopefully they can make this right by bringing this guy back but keep on going with enforcement overall.

Deporting the wrong people doesn’t make us any safer and wastes resources that could be used to deport actual criminals. Deportations don’t need to stop, but all deportations should involve due process. Targeted deportations enhance our security. Random dragnets erode our freedoms and squander resources.

Anonymous wrote:Why can a judge just make this guy undeportable?

Because after a 2-day hearing a judge issued an order. It's the law. Don't like it, then change the law. But stop violating it.

On October 10, 2019, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was granted withholding of removal
pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1232(b)(3)(A), after the immigration judge agreed that he had established
it was more likely than not that he would be persecuted by gangs in El Salvador because of a
protected ground.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.0.pdf

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.

Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true

He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.

He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.

TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

If I was the judge, I’d be finding this lawyer in contempt. They can hang out with the Marshals while the Administration figures out what they can and can’t do.

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Why would the Trump administration admit they wrongfully deported him if in fact everything was fine and dandy and they sent this man away for valid reasons?

The final order of removal was an error, just like when SSA declares you dead by error. The Trump administration screwed up, and may well cost this man his life, especially now his name has hit the press.
There should be a way to fix this

It's not clear whether it's fixable.

"In response to the error, the government has acknowledged the error but said in a filing that because Abrego-Garcia is no longer in U.S. custody, the court cannot order him to be returned to the U.S. nor can the court order El Salvador to return him."

Court can order Homan,, Bondi and Noem to return him to the US. And should they decline, he can order them jailed for civil contempt until such time as he is returned to the US. Bet he would be on the next plane.

Agree. There is no such thing as "can't." That's preposterous. They don't want to.

Yeah, these guys are going to take over Canada, Greenland and Panama, but they can't get one guy back from a Salvadoran prison?

Why can a judge just make this guy undeportable?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see now it seems he had a final order of removal . I really don’t understand the knee jerk reactions

take for instance Like the people who do the co ops to pay for bond. Regular def ended in the us being held in custody. Charities pay for bond for anyone regardless of the crime alleged. They do it on a rotating and lottery
. .

that is so ignorant. Actual victims of crimes exist. These co-op bond release people place their “high values” over the safety of others in the community. I am pretty sure these people took over and took reigns of the non-Potus- party. I just can’t get behind this “forced fantasy of goodness” of the world!

These folks have orders in place

The "final order for removal" was bogus. the man was here legally, is married to a US citizen and hadn't done anything wrong.

You don’t know this.

Why would the Trump administration admit they wrongfully deported him if in fact everything was fine and dandy and they sent this man away for valid reasons?

Was this a snitch case? You think? I do think it’s super interesting….

Facts about the Abrego Garcia El Salvador deportation case

- Abrego Garcia was granted withholding of removal to El Salvador in 2019, legally protecting him from deportation to that country.

- In March 2025, he was deported to El Salvador by ICE without any legal process to terminate his withholding protection.

- DHS admitted this was an "administrative error" as they were aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador.

- Abrego Garcia has no criminal record in the US or El Salvador.

- The gang membership allegation stemmed from a single incident at a Home Depot in 2019 where Abrego Garcia was detained but never charged with any crime.

- The only evidence cited for Abrego Garcia’s alleged MS-13 membership was that he wore a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie.

- A confidential informant allegedly identified Abrego Garcia as part of the "Westerns clique" of MS-13, which operates in New York, a state he never lived in.

- The Gang Field Interview Sheet identifying Abrego Garcia as an MS-13 member was created just 4 hours after police first met Abrego Garcia, suggesting minimal investigation before making this serious designation.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

- Prince George's County Police Department (PGPD) had no incident report for the Home Depot encounter, despite being the agency that allegedly created the Gang Field Interview Sheet.

- Hyattsville City Police confirmed they had an incident report for the Home Depot event, but Abrego Garcia wasn't named in it, contradicting the claim that he was identified as a gang member during this encounter.

- The detective who authored the gang affiliation report had been suspended.

- After his wrongful deportation, Abrego Garcia was detained in CECOT prison in El Salvador.

- The US government is paying $6 million/yr to El Salvador to detain individuals including Abrego Garcia.

- Abrego Garcia has a U.S. citizen wife and a 5-year-old disabled U.S. citizen son who remains in Maryland.

- Prior to his sudden arrest in March 2025, Abrego Garcia was working as a union sheet metal apprentice while pursuing education at the University of Maryland.

- Abrego Garcia had regularly checked in with ICE as required, with his last check-in on January 2, 2025, occurring without incident.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

- Government lawyers argued that U.S. foreign policy interests are more important than keeping this family together, even though his wife and disabled 5-year-old son are U.S. citizens.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why would the Trump administration admit they wrongfully deported him if in fact everything was fine and dandy and they sent this man away for valid reasons?

The final order of removal was an error, just like when SSA declares you dead by error. The Trump administration screwed up, and may well cost this man his life, especially now his name has hit the press.
There should be a way to fix this

It's not clear whether it's fixable.

"In response to the error, the government has acknowledged the error but said in a filing that because Abrego-Garcia is no longer in U.S. custody, the court cannot order him to be returned to the U.S. nor can the court order El Salvador to return him."

Court can order Homan,, Bondi and Noem to return him to the US. And should they decline, he can order them jailed for civil contempt until such time as he is returned to the US. Bet he would be on the next plane.

Agree. There is no such thing as "can't." That's preposterous. They don't want to.