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Anonymous wrote:I found this page in like 5 seconds:

https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/Story/Article/2490361/sports-heroes-who-served-baseball-great-jackie-robinson-was-wwii-soldier/

Military website. About Jackie Robinson. And his military service.

The news article to which the OP links notes that the page was reinstated this afternoon.

So then it hasn't been wiped, has it?

Nope. Nor has any information about the Tuskegee Soldiers or the Enola Gay. They were taken out by mistake initially and then replaced. But sure, let's all "vomit" just to show our outrage.

There are many examples of images of POC being removed from government spaces. This is literally what you wanted.

No, there are not. And if they were mistakenly removed, they have been reinstated. But please do keep up the hysteria and hyperbole.

Yeah, this DOGE and anti-DEI stuff is leading to a lot of digging holes and filling them back up again, kinda wasteful, don't you think?

The reasons WHY it's important to keep the DEI aspects of this in view--rather than phony "color blindness" for example:
1. In years past, their accomplishments were achieved IN SPITE OF legalized segregation, oppression, and/or barriers based on gender and sexual orientation. There was a higher cost for them to do what they did.
2. Because, during those years and continuing past the removal of legalized barriers (although not systemic ones) those who were recognized at the time of their service were fewer in number than their white male counterparts, someone wanting to see those models of service are forced to dig much more to find them. It is only BECAUSE of people working to unearth the hidden stories of achievement (not just in the military, but in all walks of life) in more recent decades that we have a chance to know about them, because mainstream history was more interested in, say, Lee's moral conflicts over the Union and the pain of his decisions than in the stories of women and minorities who helped win the war.
3. In essence, the objective here is to bury things we as a country have learned about in the last 6+ decades (even though some communities knew it all along).

This is the kind of lecture voters like! Go Dems!

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Democrats tried weaponizing race as a political tool, but Trump is now trying to do the right thing by getting rid of that.

You mean Republicans, with all their culture-war outrage bait that nobody cares about, that drowned out any discussion of real issues.

But at least we got all the litterboxes out of school classrooms, and nobody's eating cats and dogs.

Trump baited virtue-signaling Dems into insisting that tens of thousands of Haitians were good news for small Ohio towns. Democrats looked ridiculous as usual, and drive even more voters to Trump🎈

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Democrats tried weaponizing race as a political tool, but Trump is now trying to do the right thing by getting rid of that.

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Anonymous wrote:I found this page in like 5 seconds:

https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/Story/Article/2490361/sports-heroes-who-served-baseball-great-jackie-robinson-was-wwii-soldier/

Military website. About Jackie Robinson. And his military service.

The news article to which the OP links notes that the page was reinstated this afternoon.

So then it hasn't been wiped, has it?

Nope. Nor has any information about the Tuskegee Soldiers or the Enola Gay. They were taken out by mistake initially and then replaced. But sure, let's all "vomit" just to show our outrage.

There are many examples of images of POC being removed from government spaces. This is literally what you wanted.

No, there are not. And if they were mistakenly removed, they have been reinstated. But please do keep up the hysteria and hyperbole.

Yeah, this DOGE and anti-DEI stuff is leading to a lot of digging holes and filling them back up again, kinda wasteful, don't you think?

The reasons WHY it's important to keep the DEI aspects of this in view--rather than phony "color blindness" for example:
1. In years past, their accomplishments were achieved IN SPITE OF legalized segregation, oppression, and/or barriers based on gender and sexual orientation. There was a higher cost for them to do what they did.
2. Because, during those years and continuing past the removal of legalized barriers (although not systemic ones) those who were recognized at the time of their service were fewer in number than their white male counterparts, someone wanting to see those models of service are forced to dig much more to find them. It is only BECAUSE of people working to unearth the hidden stories of achievement (not just in the military, but in all walks of life) in more recent decades that we have a chance to know about them, because mainstream history was more interested in, say, Lee's moral conflicts over the Union and the pain of his decisions than in the stories of women and minorities who helped win the war.
3. In essence, the objective here is to bury things we as a country have learned about in the last 6+ decades (even though some communities knew it all along).

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Democrats tried weaponizing race as a political tool, but Trump is now trying to do the right thing by getting rid of that.

You mean Republicans, with all their culture-war outrage bait that nobody cares about, that drowned out any discussion of real issues.

But at least we got all the litterboxes out of school classrooms, and nobody's eating cats and dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:I found this page in like 5 seconds:

https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/Story/Article/2490361/sports-heroes-who-served-baseball-great-jackie-robinson-was-wwii-soldier/

Military website. About Jackie Robinson. And his military service.

The news article to which the OP links notes that the page was reinstated this afternoon.

So then it hasn't been wiped, has it?

Nope. Nor has any information about the Tuskegee Soldiers or the Enola Gay. They were taken out by mistake initially and then replaced. But sure, let's all "vomit" just to show our outrage.

There are many examples of images of POC being removed from government spaces. This is literally what you wanted.

No, there are not. And if they were mistakenly removed, they have been reinstated. But please do keep up the hysteria and hyperbole.

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Anonymous wrote:I found this page in like 5 seconds:

https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/Story/Article/2490361/sports-heroes-who-served-baseball-great-jackie-robinson-was-wwii-soldier/

Military website. About Jackie Robinson. And his military service.

The news article to which the OP links notes that the page was reinstated this afternoon.

So then it hasn't been wiped, has it?

Nope. Nor has any information about the Tuskegee Soldiers or the Enola Gay. They were taken out by mistake initially and then replaced. But sure, let's all "vomit" just to show our outrage.

There are many examples of images of POC being removed from government spaces. This is literally what you wanted.

No, there are not. And if they were mistakenly removed, they have been reinstated. But please do keep up the hysteria and hyperbole.

How could this possibly have been a mistake? How was removing women and minorities from the NSA museum a "mistake?" There should have been many, many people who saw the "mistake" before it happened and been able to say "wait, you're about to 'accidentally' do something!" So the fact that these things keep happening tells me they are not mistakes but are actually intentional. Like the AI that "mistakenly" removed Navajo talkers from the DOD website because it included the word "Navajo." Someone (a person) had to tell the AI to remove anything with the word "Navajo." That makes it intentional, not a "mistake."

This is absolutely spot on. Someone had to deliberately program the AI in a certain way. Terms like "women", "girls", "disability", "LGBTQ", and so on are being flagged for scrutiny and removal, but notice how the list doesn't include words like "men", "white", "Christian", or "heterosexual".

The fig leaf they're using is "we want everything to be gender and race neutral", but this programming is the furthest thing from neutral. When AI code targets, erases, excludes, and bans specific groups, that's an ideological statement. When straight white men are left alone by programmers because someone has decided they're the default human, that's an ideological statement. Just because a machine is performing an action, that doesn't make that action unbiased. Humans had to tell the machine what to do.

Even if some of the high visibility pages get declared an oopsie (mainly due to public outrage) and walked back, the fact that they were removed at all is reprehensible. The deeper Orwellian damage remains. It isn't just about erasing past contributions, it's about removing the language needed to talk about barriers to success. It's about removing the ability to study those barriers and break them down. It's about removing heroes and inspiration for young people. A female or black engineering student looking at the NASA website and seeing only white men might reasonably conclude that they have no place there. That, of course, is the intended effect.

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Anonymous wrote:More fake news.

Keep it up, Dems.

You sound desperate.

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Anonymous wrote:I found this page in like 5 seconds:

https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/Story/Article/2490361/sports-heroes-who-served-baseball-great-jackie-robinson-was-wwii-soldier/

Military website. About Jackie Robinson. And his military service.

The news article to which the OP links notes that the page was reinstated this afternoon.

So then it hasn't been wiped, has it?

Nope. Nor has any information about the Tuskegee Soldiers or the Enola Gay. They were taken out by mistake initially and then replaced. But sure, let's all "vomit" just to show our outrage.

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Democrats tried weaponizing race as a political tool, but Trump is now trying to do the right thing by getting rid of that.

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Anonymous wrote:I found this page in like 5 seconds:

https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/Story/Article/2490361/sports-heroes-who-served-baseball-great-jackie-robinson-was-wwii-soldier/

Military website. About Jackie Robinson. And his military service.

The news article to which the OP links notes that the page was reinstated this afternoon.

So then it hasn't been wiped, has it?

Nope. Nor has any information about the Tuskegee Soldiers or the Enola Gay. They were taken out by mistake initially and then replaced. But sure, let's all "vomit" just to show our outrage.

There are many examples of images of POC being removed from government spaces. This is literally what you wanted.

No, there are not. And if they were mistakenly removed, they have been reinstated. But please do keep up the hysteria and hyperbole.

How could this possibly have been a mistake? How was removing women and minorities from the NSA museum a "mistake?" There should have been many, many people who saw the "mistake" before it happened and been able to say "wait, you're about to 'accidentally' do something!" So the fact that these things keep happening tells me they are not mistakes but are actually intentional. Like the AI that "mistakenly" removed Navajo talkers from the DOD website because it included the word "Navajo." Someone (a person) had to tell the AI to remove anything with the word "Navajo." That makes it intentional, not a "mistake."

This is absolutely spot on. Someone had to deliberately program the AI in a certain way. Terms like "women", "girls", "disability", "LGBTQ", and so on are being flagged for scrutiny and removal, but notice how the list doesn't include words like "men", "white", "Christian", or "heterosexual".

The fig leaf they're using is "we want everything to be gender and race neutral", but this programming is the furthest thing from neutral. When AI code targets, erases, excludes, and bans specific groups, that's an ideological statement. When straight white men are left alone by programmers because someone has decided they're the default human, that's an ideological statement. Just because a machine is performing an action, that doesn't make that action unbiased. Humans had to tell the machine what to do.

Even if some of the high visibility pages get declared an oopsie (mainly due to public outrage) and walked back, the fact that they were removed at all is reprehensible. The deeper Orwellian damage remains. It isn't just about erasing past contributions, it's about removing the language needed to talk about barriers to success. It's about removing the ability to study those barriers and break them down. It's about removing heroes and inspiration for young people. A female or black engineering student looking at the NASA website and seeing only white men might reasonably conclude that they have no place there. That, of course, is the intended effect.

What a weird objection. There are no special billion-dollar USAID programs earmarked for white heterosexual men.