Yes, it's not possible, because younger kids (USYS, so SY) will be feeding the MLSN Next teams.

There would be an age gap at U12->U13.

Let’s put an P2P club example:

Bavarian United SC, from North Milwaukee, WI.

- Our first teams (U13 to U19) play MLS Next 1.

- Second teams will be playing MLS Next 2, USYS local league, tournaments, etc …

- U12 and younger USYS and tournaments.

My question is:

How Bavarian could have a double age system (BY for MLS Next 1, and SY for the rest)?

I think it’s impossible to organize a club with double BY vs SY standards.

MLSN does not want BY. They could care less. They want the most best players and they want to make $$$, but this argument that they want BY because it is a superior cutoff is foolish. They top MLSN teams and clubs may fees their elite superstars into international competition via US Youth teams, but this argument that MLSN wants BY so they can go play internationally is nonsense.

This is interesting that this statement and the mcclean email both reference US soccer as the driving force. What has been conveyed to the public is that us youth soccer, us club soccer, and ayso are driving this change. Has something changed behind the scenes with us soccer involvement? If so, that would signal everyone going SY as opposed to some leagues staying BY.

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Anonymous wrote:At my club (non Academy) the first teams play MLSN1.

Now, second teams have been invited to join MLSN2.

If MLSN2 plays SY, then I see impossible that MLSN 1 remains BY.

It’s absolutely infeasible keeping two different age systems (BY/SY) inside the same club.

So 1 would change to benefit 2?

Where does the top league change to accommodate lower leagues in any sport?

More money in MLSN2 so rules have to be set to maximize revenue. MLSN P2P has to subsidize the academies because they are money losers. Soccer is built on schemes and grift with prestige as a marketing tool. Enjoy the ride.

I should also add that MLS academies realize they will not be able to properly identify players if MLSN P2P is SY and they are BY. And MLSN1 won't be able to identify MLSN2 players to promote.

When you are involved in tryouts and promotion/demotion, you try to minimize the drama to reduce the churn rate. So, aligning MLSN2 and MLSN to either SY or BY makes the most business sense. Considering the whole youth soccer landscape switcheding to SY, it is not a sound business decision to stay in BY alone.

That’s not what the BY’ers want to hear!

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Anonymous wrote:At my club (non Academy) the first teams play MLSN1.

Now, second teams have been invited to join MLSN2.

If MLSN2 plays SY, then I see impossible that MLSN 1 remains BY.

It’s absolutely infeasible keeping two different age systems (BY/SY) inside the same club.

So 1 would change to benefit 2?

Where does the top league change to accommodate lower leagues in any sport?

More money in MLSN2 so rules have to be set to maximize revenue. MLSN P2P has to subsidize the academies because they are money losers. Soccer is built on schemes and grift with prestige as a marketing tool. Enjoy the ride.

I should also add that MLS academies realize they will not be able to properly identify players if MLSN P2P is SY and they are BY. And MLSN1 won't be able to identify MLSN2 players to promote.

I would also like to add, that if they can create a true pipeline to the premier league, Q4 players carry high price tags over there.

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Anonymous wrote:At my club (non Academy) the first teams play MLSN1.

Now, second teams have been invited to join MLSN2.

If MLSN2 plays SY, then I see impossible that MLSN 1 remains BY.

It’s absolutely infeasible keeping two different age systems (BY/SY) inside the same club.

So 1 would change to benefit 2?

Where does the top league change to accommodate lower leagues in any sport?

More money in MLSN2 so rules have to be set to maximize revenue. MLSN P2P has to subsidize the academies because they are money losers. Soccer is built on schemes and grift with prestige as a marketing tool. Enjoy the ride.

I should also add that MLS academies realize they will not be able to properly identify players if MLSN P2P is SY and they are BY. And MLSN1 won't be able to identify MLSN2 players to promote.

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Anonymous wrote:At my club (non Academy) the first teams play MLSN1.

Now, second teams have been invited to join MLSN2.

If MLSN2 plays SY, then I see impossible that MLSN 1 remains BY.

It’s absolutely infeasible keeping two different age systems (BY/SY) inside the same club.

So 1 would change to benefit 2?

Where does the top league change to accommodate lower leagues in any sport?

More money in MLSN2 so rules have to be set to maximize revenue. MLSN P2P has to subsidize the academies because they are money losers. Soccer is built on schemes and grift with prestige as a marketing tool. Enjoy the ride.

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Anonymous wrote:At my club (non Academy) the first teams play MLSN1.

Now, second teams have been invited to join MLSN2.

If MLSN2 plays SY, then I see impossible that MLSN 1 remains BY.

It’s absolutely infeasible keeping two different age systems (BY/SY) inside the same club.

So 1 would change to benefit 2?

Where does the top league change to accommodate lower leagues in any sport?

Just stop. MLSN the entity is not accommodating 2 over 1. They are one entity and will do what is best for MLSN as a whole. That involves having ONE age cutoff whatever that is. They have no allegiance to BY or SY. But in the youth soccer environment come Fall 26, their best bet to maintain and improve market share is to move to SY.

Why is that their best bet?
Spell it out point by point with pros and cons to mlsnext

I have not seen one person, anywhere, that can explain how staying BY benefits MLS academy's and saying to "align with international standards" is complete BS. So please, tell us how staying BY will make them more money? Because that is what this is all about.

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Anonymous wrote:There is still some minimal chance MLSN stays BY, albeit very unlikely. It seems the word has leaked that it is going SY, but there has still been no official announcement. However, there is a zero percent chance MLSN stays BY while MLSN2 goes SY. Many top clubs will have teams in both and it would be a logistical nightmare to do that. MLSN would be writing their demise. Can't happen. Won't happen.

You must ask yourself an honest question: What advantage do those pay-to-play MLSN clubs still stay in BY alone? MLS Academy 100% will remain in BY, so do not confuse both as they hope so.

Thinking MLSN academies will 100% percent stay BY misunderstands their role in the market for MLS. They are low budget show to try to pretend to be a big boy club.

Explain how MLS Next is low budget and pretending to be the big boys?

Which youth league is higher budget and has bigger boys?

There, that's what you are not seeing. Money is not in the leagues like MLSN, it in the teams. MLS knows this of course and needs to reach down and come up with schemes to get part of the bag.

did you answer the question?

Asked and answered.

Anonymous wrote:Academies will do whatever is best for the academy. Yes they are better than the P2P teams, but they are also competing for some of the same kids. Not all kids chose academy over P2P for a multitude of reasons. Going BY if all else is SY may put them at a disadvantage.

What disadvantage?
How difficult is it for the less than 30 academy clubs to fill their teams with high quality players?

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Anonymous wrote:At my club (non Academy) the first teams play MLSN1.

Now, second teams have been invited to join MLSN2.

If MLSN2 plays SY, then I see impossible that MLSN 1 remains BY.

It’s absolutely infeasible keeping two different age systems (BY/SY) inside the same club.

So 1 would change to benefit 2?

Where does the top league change to accommodate lower leagues in any sport?

Just stop. MLSN the entity is not accommodating 2 over 1. They are one entity and will do what is best for MLSN as a whole. That involves having ONE age cutoff whatever that is. They have no allegiance to BY or SY. But in the youth soccer environment come Fall 26, their best bet to maintain and improve market share is to move to SY.

Why is that their best bet?
Spell it out point by point with pros and cons to mlsnext

Academies will do whatever is best for the academy. Yes they are better than the P2P teams, but they are also competing for some of the same kids. Not all kids chose academy over P2P for a multitude of reasons. Going BY if all else is SY may put them at a disadvantage.