I disagree with some of the International claims, perhaps it comes down to specific countries differing. In my circle in UK it’s Ivies, boarding school families from all over and still would say this is the dream for most students.

Internationally, you can't beat Harvard.

Stanford and MIT are almost as good.

Princeton, Yale and I'm gonna throw Cal Tech in there just to watch people get bent out of shape.

Then Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago

Then Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins.

Anonymous wrote:Actually, Brown, Duke, and Princeton have about the same level of international prestige. While Princeton is considered a top 5 university in the States, its lack of major professional programs somewhat dilutes its brand internationally. I would say that Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and Columbia are the most prestigious American universities internationally in that order.

brown is an unknown. and no duke is not as prestigious as princeton internationally

According to people I spoke to in Korea and Japan, most well known/prestigious universities are Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Berkeley, Princeton, Yale in that order.

Anonymous wrote:As someone who’s lived in major cities internationally and in the US, a grouping would be:

Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge

Princeton, Caltech, Duke, Columbia, Yale

Berkeley, Penn, Cornell, Chicago, Hopkins

+1 I think people forget how strong the Berkeley brand is globally

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Anonymous wrote:Not Penn.
Most of the country thinks it's the same as Penn State.

This is true. But the general public is pretty stupid. They know Harvard and maybe one or two others plus local schools and that's it. Imagine asking a plebe about Bowdoin 😂

This is the hallmark of a liberal! Look down the noses at the public.

The current Republican Party is reliant on human stupidity.

Yep. It’s not your grandfather’s Republican Party anymore…that is for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but agree with PP. Prestige means, no matter where you are in the world, people's recognize as prestigious….

Duke is not it and doesn’t belong on this list. Sorry Duke boys and girls.

Yes, nobody know what Duke is outside of US similar to Brown, Dartmouth or Cornell.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You've got to be frickin' kidding me. European here. Everyone wants an Ivy in the US. Do you know how many Internationals take up sports to try to get their kids into one of those schools?? The Ivy league is very very well-known around the world. OMG. This forum never ceases to amaze me.

I live in UK and educated people here absolutely know the Ivies, all of them, and think very highly. I’d go so far as to say more known here by people than the educated area in US we lived-in previously. I was actually surprised by it initially.

+1

Americans know college football and tailgating….much less the academic pursuits.

My son is at an Ivy and BIL, unemployed, who never went to college-from Ohio —had zero idea of the school. He had never heard of it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not Penn.
Most of the country thinks it's the same as Penn State.

This is true. But the general public is pretty stupid. They know Harvard and maybe one or two others plus local schools and that's it. Imagine asking a plebe about Bowdoin 😂

This is the hallmark of a liberal! Look down the noses at the public.

The current Republican Party is reliant on human stupidity.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but agree with PP. Prestige means, no matter where you are in the world, people's recognize as prestigious….

Duke is not it and doesn’t belong on this list. Sorry Duke boys and girls.

Yes, nobody know what Duke is outside of US similar to Brown, Dartmouth or Cornell.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You've got to be frickin' kidding me. European here. Everyone wants an Ivy in the US. Do you know how many Internationals take up sports to try to get their kids into one of those schools?? The Ivy league is very very well-known around the world. OMG. This forum never ceases to amaze me.

I live in UK and educated people here absolutely know the Ivies, all of them, and think very highly. I’d go so far as to say more known here by people than the educated area in US we lived-in previously. I was actually surprised by it initially.

Actually, Brown, Duke, and Princeton have about the same level of international prestige. While Princeton is considered a top 5 university in the States, its lack of major professional programs somewhat dilutes its brand internationally. I would say that Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and Columbia are the most prestigious American universities internationally in that order.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but agree with PP. Prestige means, no matter where you are in the world, people's recognize as prestigious….

Duke is not it and doesn’t belong on this list. Sorry Duke boys and girls.

Yes, nobody know what Duke is outside of US similar to Brown, Dartmouth or Cornell.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You've got to be frickin' kidding me. European here. Everyone wants an Ivy in the US. Do you know how many Internationals take up sports to try to get their kids into one of those schools?? The Ivy league is very very well-known around the world. OMG. This forum never ceases to amaze me.

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Anonymous wrote:There are so many of these types of threads. At some point *shrugs*.

Folks are starting to think about prestige relative to value proposition. So prestigue with value factored in:
UMD, Georgia Tech, UNC Chapel Hill

These are all blown out of the water by any full need school for the majority for the population.

And MIT is #1: https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings/college-hopes-worries

Wouldn't say that, at least in Maryland's case (depending upon the field of study, at least).

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but agree with PP. Prestige means, no matter where you are in the world, people's recognize as prestigious….

Duke is not it and doesn’t belong on this list. Sorry Duke boys and girls.

Yes, nobody know what Duke is outside of US similar to Brown, Dartmouth or Cornell.

Anonymous wrote:All 8 Ivies, MIT and Stanford are perpetually on the list and attract so many International students.

I went to a state school---but when my kid answers the ?--where do you go to school? He gets a MUCH much different reaction than the other that goes in-state...lots of 'wow' 'you must be very smart', 'well done mom and dad' and all other kinds of ridiculous stuff. The prestige factor is there. It's an Ivy that wasn't even on the lists--but it draws a lot of clout in certain circles--esp NE.

All 8 Ivies, MIT and Stanford are perpetually on the list and attract so many International students.