Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:38     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.



I never see any evidence that MAGA understands the first amendment. At all. These same people will get mad at Jeff for “censoring their free speech” when he deletes their awful posts from his own website. It’s a common theme with them - they have a loose idea of the concepts, but jumble them up and make it upside down, inside out, or backwards.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:37     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good riddance.

Hate speech, fomenting and participating civil disorder here, and supporting terrorism abroad, should have no sanctuary behind First Amendment protections within U.S. borders. Those protections are not unlimited, as this Hamas supporter is finding out.

Imagine rounding up all the civil rights and anti-Vietnam college protesters because you disagree with what they were saying and doing. You people are nuts. Wait until they come for you or someone you care ability or love. Will you be spewing your same hateful barbs. Doubt it.


Just the ones that aren't citizens.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:36     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is potentially a bad precedent. It will have to go through the courts. The mitigating factor is advocating for Hamas - an officially designated terrorist organization. Yes, we have free speech. But foreign citizens - even Green Card holders - advocating for violent religious extremists like Hamas becomes a national security concern. Hamas is well known for suicide bombings, blowing up buses and restaurants, torture, slavery, kidnappings and so on. Green Card holders seeking to increase the influence of Hamas in America - and college campuses in particular - is definitely pushing some legal boundaries.

If what you have said is true, then the chances are is that he will be deported. For those of you that think deporting him is harsh, when you apply to come to the US, you are asked questions about terrorism etc. I bet he never put on his application that he supported Hamas or any other terrorist organization. If he had, he wouldn't have been allowed into the US in the first place.


But did he support Hamas? Is he quoted anywhere saying anything other than protesting the war against the Palestinian civilians in Gaza? There are many people who protest for the Palestinian civilians who do NOT support Hamas. Calling protesters supporters of Hamas is a tactic used by the GOP/MAGA and the Israeli government to malign people who are exercising their right to protest bombing of innocent civilians.


So I think that will be the key point. Hamas is a designated terrorist organization. It is responsible for suicide bombings, kidnappings, torture, and murder. It is deeply misogynistic. It advocates for the death of all members of the LGTBQ community. It is profoundly anti-democratic. It has advocated for the genocide of all Jews. It is also absurdly corrupt. Its leaders were billionaires that stole billions in aid. And Hamas has shown that it is perfectly capable and willing to murder more than a 1000 innocent people on a Saturday morning.

The Columbia student protestors have shown over and over again that they are advocates for Hamas. Just listen to them - "We are all Hamas." "Hamas, we love you. We love your rockets too." And on and on. There are a million different ways to protest against the Netanyahu government. Israelis do it every day. But the student protesters have chosen to affiliate themselves and to mouth the propaganda of Hamas - an officially designated terrorist organization. For an immigrant, it would be like obtaining a visa for Ireland and then advocating for the death of all Catholics, gays, and the subjugation of women. It would be a problem anywhere. This is not a free speech issue. This is knowingly advancing the interests of terrorists while in the US.

Regardless of the nuances of the law, it really is profoundly stupid for immigrants to loudly advocate and encourage a terrorist organization. He should probably be deported just for the lack of common sense and decency alone.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:31     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.


What does “espousing terroristic activity” mean? What law? Stop making stuff up. Last time I checked, the First Amendment was actually the law. I’m Jewish and don’t agree with what this person said or did, but I am appalled by this arrest and the notion that lawful residents are being deported for exercising free speech.


Thank you for supporting the right thing. I am an immigrant Citizen and this feels my heart. This should worry everyone who is a naturalized citizen. The laws are not the same for us. Any day the govt can turn against us and declare the free speech we exercise is actually terroristic activity and we need to be deported. If this news does not worry you then you are not paying attention!


And you all voted for Trump and were told he would do this. And when people tried to warn you, you told them to STFU.



Who are you talking to, hun?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:29     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.


What does “espousing terroristic activity” mean? What law? Stop making stuff up. Last time I checked, the First Amendment was actually the law. I’m Jewish and don’t agree with what this person said or did, but I am appalled by this arrest and the notion that lawful residents are being deported for exercising free speech.


Thank you for supporting the right thing. I am an immigrant Citizen and this feels my heart. This should worry everyone who is a naturalized citizen. The laws are not the same for us. Any day the govt can turn against us and declare the free speech we exercise is actually terroristic activity and we need to be deported. If this news does not worry you then you are not paying attention!


And you all voted for Trump and were told he would do this. And when people tried to warn you, you told them to STFU.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:21     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure the Trump admin is currently scrambling for what to charge him with now that they realized he doesn’t have a student visa, but instead a green card. Instead of deporting him, they will need to arrest him and charge him with a crime, or release him.


This

They weren't ready for the "green card doesn't give you any rights" fight they have on their hands now.

That is untrue and clearly laid out in laws. He deserves his time in a court of law and due process


Of course like most Trumpers they don't think green card gives you rights but they didn't want to tip their hand yet hat they were following dictator play book. Some Trump voters like to be respectable people not look like lunatics.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:14     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.


Assaulting people is not free speech, but you know that.

I explained a very basic part of the First Amendment, and you moved the goal posts to assault? Predictable.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:11     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.


Assaulting people is not free speech, but you know that.


Who did he assault? Provide a specific name, date and description of what he did.


Dates back to late 2023 man has a history. FAFO

A Brooklyn man wearing a Palestinian scarf was arrested this week after getting into a caught-on-video scuffle with locals on the Upper East Side while trying to rip down Israeli hostage posters they were putting up.

Mohamed Khalil, 21, was charged with harassment, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest and obstruction Tuesday in the incident at 68th Street and Lexington Avenue around 5:30 p.m., when he tried to push past locals who appeared to be posting the leaflets on a utility pole, footage posted on X shows.

“Why you taking it down?” one man says to Khalil. “Don’t touch me. Don’t f—ing touch me. I don’t give a f–k. Get the f–k outta here. You’re a scumbag!”





The student is Mahmoud, not Mohamed.

Read carefully.



Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:10     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty bold action on his part for a non-citizen. Maybe this will work out for him and maybe it won’t, but he was pretty reckless. I can’t imagine behaving such a way in a country where I am but a guest.


+1

I don’t understand why he was involved in the Columbia protests. He got the opportunity of a lifetime to come to the US.



Maybe he had a greater moral sense than you.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:08     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good riddance.

Hate speech, fomenting and participating civil disorder here, and supporting terrorism abroad, should have no sanctuary behind First Amendment protections within U.S. borders. Those protections are not unlimited, as this Hamas supporter is finding out.

Imagine rounding up all the civil rights and anti-Vietnam college protesters because you disagree with what they were saying and doing. You people are nuts. Wait until they come for you or someone you care ability or love. Will you be spewing your same hateful barbs. Doubt it.


Those protestors were all citizens. You can get away with a lot if you aren’t on a temporary status.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:08     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

I’m sure the Trump admin is currently scrambling for what to charge him with now that they realized he doesn’t have a student visa, but instead a green card. Instead of deporting him, they will need to arrest him and charge him with a crime, or release him.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:07     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

You have to be careful while on the green card. You don’t have all the same protections as citizens. My lawyer told me to make sure not to so much as get a speeding ticket, since technically anything like this can be used against you during the citizenship interview.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:05     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:Good riddance.

Hate speech, fomenting and participating civil disorder here, and supporting terrorism abroad, should have no sanctuary behind First Amendment protections within U.S. borders. Those protections are not unlimited, as this Hamas supporter is finding out.

Imagine rounding up all the civil rights and anti-Vietnam college protesters because you disagree with what they were saying and doing. You people are nuts. Wait until they come for you or someone you care ability or love. Will you be spewing your same hateful barbs. Doubt it.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:03     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:Pretty bold action on his part for a non-citizen. Maybe this will work out for him and maybe it won’t, but he was pretty reckless. I can’t imagine behaving such a way in a country where I am but a guest.


+1

I don’t understand why he was involved in the Columbia protests. He got the opportunity of a lifetime to come to the US.

Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 09:02     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is clear why he is being deported. Hamas is a terrorist organization.





Criticizing Israel’s policies and actions does nothing to meet those elements.

It’s sad (but mostly pathetic) that anyone needs to point that out.


And, all in support of Hamas......



Was he convicted of these crimes? If so, then a hearing in front of an IJ is the next step. If not, then you should be ashamed of yourself.


Dude admits to it everyone. Not sure why we need a conviction.

You are definitely not an American, for that’s a very unAmerican statement PP