Anonymous
02/18/2025 14:10
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.
You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.
This is the irony: DEI has not been inclusive.
Just the opposite in fact. DEI is used to mask racism. DEI treats people (students in this case) differently, based on the color of their skin.
This Trump order is one of the few I completely agree with.
Prove it.
You are lazy PP.
Bloomberg for starters:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-black-lives-matter-equal-opportunity-corporate-diversity/
Anonymous
02/18/2025 14:04
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posted on this yet?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/politics/education-dept-race-based-programs.html
"The Education Department warned schools in a letter on Friday that they risked losing federal funding if they continued to take race into account when making scholarship or hiring decisions, or so much as nodded to race in “all other aspects of student, academic and campus life.”
I don't even know where to begin...I feel like I'm in that Harry Potter movie where the Ministry of Magic keeps issuing inane decrees
Give me one example of schools using race as a factor when hiring someone or extending a scholarship to someone. Crickets.... schools are one place where racism isn't a factor. School age children haven't yet learned how to be racist at an early age. Perhaps us adults could learn something from our young children.
Montgomery county uses 4 criteria when analyzing school zone boundaries. The primary one is diversity.
Bologna!
“ Our Board Policy, FAA, Educational Facilities Planning, identifies four main factors for consideration when establishing and making changes to school boundaries. These include:
Demographic characteristics of student population
Geography
Stability of school assignments over time
Facility utilization”
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/boundary-study/
Drawing up school boundaries doesn't include or exclude certain children from going to public school based on race. It simply determines WHERE they go to school. No child is being denied public school due to the color of their skin and no one is getting hired or fired because of their skin color and those things are relevant to this topic.
What about those tens of thousands of six-figure DEI management and school admin jobs that literally popped up overnight during covid? They seemed to be pretty much AA exclusive positions. And since many of these jobs never existed before, what was the relevant work experience needed to qualify for the position?
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:45
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.
You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.
Agree. If white men can’t be exclusive, no one should be able to be.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:44
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:HBCUs may benefit from this by increasing applicants.
What do you mean? Hbcus arent limited to black students.
I'm a white female and attended Morgan State. Got a scholarship too!
Were you under the impression that only students of color could attend a HBCU?
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:41
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
How can they separate sports by gender then? That’s discrimination. Oh, wait, the letter only instructed them to stop racial discrimination, not gender or religious discrimination.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:36
Subject: Re:Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So administrators should now feel free to reject the mediocre white boys on their merits, instead of giving them an advantage based on their race. Finally! The Asian kids and black women are going to LOVE this!
Maybe don't ask for race or gender on applications.
Then literally no male will get into college. They actually benefit and get in better schools b/c they don't apply in the same numbers.
This is actually a boon for hiring as well. We don’t have to go out of our way to find white boys in the interest of “diversity”. We can just look at the best and exclude the rest. Which includes fewer and fewer white boys these days since they’ve prioritized dope and video games over bettering themselves through hard work.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:34
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:HBCUs may benefit from this by increasing applicants.
HBCUs already offer admission to White students. I went to an HBCU with a sizable number of White students. They are also offered scholarships to attend. However, many White students don't see HBCUs as schools they want to attend. I don't see this changing unless this administration outlaws HBCUs, which wouldn't surprise me unfortunately.
Yes, HBCUs and schools that emphasize Native American and Latino culture are at risk — even though anyone can attend them.
The DC area has a concentration of highly educated Black Americans, and Black communities that go back many generations. I can imagine Trump and Musk salivating at the thought of damaging us.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:33
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We had clubs celebrating different backgrounds and ethnicities twenty to thirty years ago, all were welcome, and it was not a big deal. Apparently now that it falls under DEI, it inspires blind MAGA rage
Exactly.
I was a member of the Society of Women Engineers for years, starting with a student chapter at my university in the 90s. Membership was open to all - we actually had several men in the chapter, and one of our faculty advisors was a man. No one screamed "DEI" about it then, and yet, now, this is suddenly an issue.
Ah SWE
Good times! Also from the 90s and the meeting had a prominent amount of men, probably because of the free pizza
And they ran the most prominent engineering career fair on campus which was open to all.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:32
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.
You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.
This is the irony: DEI has not been inclusive.
Just the opposite in fact. DEI is used to mask racism. DEI treats people (students in this case) differently, based on the color of their skin.
This Trump order is one of the few I completely agree with.
You have no idea what DEI means.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:31
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We had clubs celebrating different backgrounds and ethnicities twenty to thirty years ago, all were welcome, and it was not a big deal. Apparently now that it falls under DEI, it inspires blind MAGA rage
Exactly.
I was a member of the Society of Women Engineers for years, starting with a student chapter at my university in the 90s. Membership was open to all - we actually had several men in the chapter, and one of our faculty advisors was a man. No one screamed "DEI" about it then, and yet, now, this is suddenly an issue.
Mediocre white men have been convinced that the only thing keeping them from becoming billionaires is DEI.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:29
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:We had clubs celebrating different backgrounds and ethnicities twenty to thirty years ago, all were welcome, and it was not a big deal. Apparently now that it falls under DEI, it inspires blind MAGA rage
Exactly.
I was a member of the Society of Women Engineers for years, starting with a student chapter at my university in the 90s. Membership was open to all - we actually had several men in the chapter, and one of our faculty advisors was a man. No one screamed "DEI" about it then, and yet, now, this is suddenly an issue.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:28
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.
You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.
The AA students associations are in fact open to everyone. There were always a few non Asians in the membership. There is no "Asians only" requirement.
Seems like the name alone creates exclusions. If someone made a White Girl student association do you think a Black Man is going to feel welcome even if they claim no White or female requirement? DEI people always claim inclusion but create nothing but exclusion.
Okay, this argument is on its face nonsense, but let's just look at the philosophy here. How is ANYONE being hurt by not participating in a WOMEN in STEM club or an International club?
There is no harm, so why the frack do you care?
I don’t care beyond the fact that if my White brother wanted to start a White Redneck Hunting Club the Black vegan women from the STEM club would be the first to oppose it. Free speech only works if it works both ways. It’s not like that anymore. It has to exist as anything goes or it won’t work. That’s what you fail to understand.
Well, if you hadn't discriminated against us for say, 400 years, maybe this wouldn't be necessary.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:28
Subject: Re:Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
I look forward to seeing how the kids adapt to this nonsense. For example, the Black Students Union can now become the “African American Culture Appreciation Club,” with a knowledge test required to join. If you implement a cookout dish or dance requirement too, you’ll exclude 95% of white people right out the gate. Only the best appreciators can join, no DEI allowed.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:27
Subject: Re:Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So administrators should now feel free to reject the mediocre white boys on their merits, instead of giving them an advantage based on their race. Finally! The Asian kids and black women are going to LOVE this!
Maybe don't ask for race or gender on applications.
Then literally no male will get into college. They actually benefit and get in better schools b/c they don't apply in the same numbers.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:09
Subject: Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs
Anonymous wrote:HBCUs may benefit from this by increasing applicants.
HBCUs already offer admission to White students. I went to an HBCU with a sizable number of White students. They are also offered scholarships to attend. However, many White students don't see HBCUs as schools they want to attend. I don't see this changing unless this administration outlaws HBCUs, which wouldn't surprise me unfortunately.