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Anonymous wrote:And what about how he got the hotel room and she had to stay in a van alone? Weird choice.

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I agree - it was like they knew that Brian had assaulted Gabby and in the end they rewarded him with a free night in a hotel room where they encouraged him to spend the evening watching TV while they advised Gabby to go to a public shower 🚿 house.

Luckily the documentary stated that she ended up driving to the hotel and stayed with Brian that night.

Luckily? LUCKILY? She should have called her parents and been on the next flight to NY.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't appear either of them ever went to college even for a bit. He was older than she was by a few grades I believe. I'm not sure why her parents didn't try to make her go to college or stop her from moving to FL with a boy she barely knew (at that point.)

They all seem like great parents (both parents and step parents) they just seem a little hands off. To hear them describe it, they all expressed shock that she wanted to move to FL but never told her she shouldn't go.

She was 22!

I still give my kids advice and guidance at that age.
College-- she should have went.

She should have gone. Not went.

I just watched this. It was gripping ... I didn't look too deeply into the story when it first broke ... but wow, do I have questions.

First of all. Gabby was very sympathetic ... but she seemed awfully immature. Was it ever addressed whether she had diagnosed anxiety, or OCD, as she said, or if she had any other issues?

Second of all, Brian's family was so freaking evil. I couldn't believe the mom and the sister joking about the cops getting Brian and his mom confused.

But that being said ... the terrible cops! OMG. There was the Utah one who said Gabby was just like his wife who has anxiety. But I'm also confused about the Florida cop who went to the house, and the parents wouldn't talk to him? Couldn't he have been more forceful?

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Anonymous wrote:The cop thing was extremely odd because she is so sweet, shy and pretty looking, and going by gender stereotypes and misogyny, the average man would have wanted to protect her. It makes no sense.

The cops were trying to do the right thing and not just assume the man did it. I'm disgusted by 99% of these posts. The cops in that interaction knew that she was the aggressor and did the right thing. They shouldn't base their decisions on how cute and sweet someone is and you all know it.

You all are so hung up on how pretty, shy, small, sweet, white etc she is. That's where your sense of injustice comes from. She put her hands on him. No woman has any right to put their hands on another person.

⬆️ She seemed to be having a major manic episode. AND she admitted to the police she was the aggressor. BL was restraining her from attacking him. Her mania may have been going on for days. He was probably restraining her when he placed her in a chokehold and she died near the creek bed.

It seems like Gabby might have been bipolar maybe undiagnosed. It's more common among artistic temperament people are.

All the people in the doc saying BL was weird, BL was strange... it's just confirmation bias--he came across to me as a sensitive shy guy who had bitten off more than he could chew with Gabby. Not saying she deserved any of this--mental illness is no ones fault--but I think she just got crazy violent with him at the end and he snapped.

You sound like all the Chris Watts apologists.

I am in AWE there's so many of them on reddit. disgusting.

Didn’t read the thread. I’m not even finished with the first episode and it’s very clear. The cops killed her. What dumbasses take a huge man over a petite woman’s side of a story.

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Anonymous wrote:Brian’s parents are scum. They contacted an attorney before Brian even left Wyoming, blocked her parents from contacting them, showed no concern for Gabby, “found” Brian after a 45 minutes search despite the authorities searching for weeks and that “burn after you read” letter from his mom. It’s all disgusting.

They should DEFINITELY have been charged with obstructing justice.

What horrible people.

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I'm stuck on why the cops wouldn't have reached out to speak to the witness who saw the slap, before making a determination. It wasn't a report of a woman attacking a man. She was tiny- I can't get with how a man would slap someone so small. If he wanted to get away, he could have.

He didn't have to hide what happened, engage with the family lawyer, zoom home, hide in his parents home, refuse to speak with police, doctor up a fake journal and story line that she had an injury and that he needed to mercy-kill her. That's just too many things for anyone to make it up in their mind that this is her fault in any way, shape or manner.

And his family- I'll just hazard a guess based on his mother's 'burn after reading' note that she is the one from whom he inherited his sociopathy.

Anonymous wrote:Did her parents consent to this documentary?

I think so since they were in it.

Anonymous wrote:And what about how he got the hotel room and she had to stay in a van alone? Weird choice.

+1
I agree - it was like they knew that Brian had assaulted Gabby and in the end they rewarded him with a free night in a hotel room where they encouraged him to spend the evening watching TV while they advised Gabby to go to a public shower 🚿 house.

Luckily the documentary stated that she ended up driving to the hotel and stayed with Brian that night.

I also find it odd how well the Moab police treated Brian - especially toward the end.

A witness who called the authorities after actually seeing as well as claiming that they saw Brian “slapping” Gabby….and in the end the police drove Brian to a hotel where he was given a free, one-night stay while Gabby was left alone to basically fend for herself.

I think it was very irresponsible for the cops to leave Gabby, a young girl, to her own devices for the evening when she clearly had no home to go to or someone to stay w/her since it is dangerous for her to be alone in an area that she was just visiting.
It is no wonder that (according to the documentary) she ended up staying w/Brian at the hotel that evening.

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Anonymous wrote:She was way too young to be living with this guy. Her parents should have insisted she go to college instead of the van life.

She was 22. But this can happen in college as well, like with the University of Utah student killed by her ex boyfriend. Same apathetic police, family far away as well trying their best to figure out how to help and support a young adult child without overstepping. Of course abusers take advantage of young women not near family and isolate them further.

THIS! What we need to do as a society is stop communicating to women that their main focus should be their role as partner to a man. There's later comments in this thread - "why wasn't she dating an ambitious boy in college?" does not solve the problem.

How about we teach women that whomever they date (if they want to) should NOT be their main focus and that they should leave anyone (ambitious, odd, underemployed, whatever the case may be) who is not treating them properly?

A huge part of the problem in these situations (and I am in no way blaming Gabby for what happened to her, she might have even been trying to leave at that point from the sounds of it) is that women are taught (by society as a whole, if not their individual families) to prioritize finding a man and making things work. And men can use that to manipulate them, to the quoted point. It won't make certain men any less violent (that's on them) but if we stopped with the fairy tale Prince Charming narratives and encouraging women to date/marry/be in a committed relationship while they are young, they might be a little more willing to walk away, or say "no thank you" in the first place.

I understand most people want a partner, and I do believe in marriage as an institution, but a lot of people out there aren't worth marrying/staying with/being engaged to, even if they aren't violent. Normalizing women being single and leaving bad partners, and staying alone until they find a good one, or permanently, if they want to (or never do find a good one) will go a long way to help future generations of women.

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Anonymous wrote:The cop thing was extremely odd because she is so sweet, shy and pretty looking, and going by gender stereotypes and misogyny, the average man would have wanted to protect her. It makes no sense.

The cops were trying to do the right thing and not just assume the man did it. I'm disgusted by 99% of these posts. The cops in that interaction knew that she was the aggressor and did the right thing. They shouldn't base their decisions on how cute and sweet someone is and you all know it.

You all are so hung up on how pretty, shy, small, sweet, white etc she is. That's where your sense of injustice comes from. She put her hands on him. No woman has any right to put their hands on another person.

⬆️ She seemed to be having a major manic episode. AND she admitted to the police she was the aggressor. BL was restraining her from attacking him. Her mania may have been going on for days. He was probably restraining her when he placed her in a chokehold and she died near the creek bed.

It seems like Gabby might have been bipolar maybe undiagnosed. It's more common among artistic temperament people are.

All the people in the doc saying BL was weird, BL was strange... it's just confirmation bias--he came across to me as a sensitive shy guy who had bitten off more than he could chew with Gabby. Not saying she deserved any of this--mental illness is no ones fault--but I think she just got crazy violent with him at the end and he snapped.

You are WAY out of line! Artistic people have bipolar?! Please take your idiocy elsewhere. It's like all of the morons have found DCUM these days. He (the MURDERER) is sensitive and she was manic. Go write your fiction somewhere else.

Looks like Brian's parents found DCUM.

His parents were in deep denial.

The police footage shows a classic case of domestic abuse that has been ongoing.
The victim took the blame for being hurt. An abuser often responds with look what you made me do!
The police were men and could not have cared less. That is just how police handle cases of domestic abuse.
They were either very poorly trained or abusers themselves

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Anonymous wrote:The cop thing was extremely odd because she is so sweet, shy and pretty looking, and going by gender stereotypes and misogyny, the average man would have wanted to protect her. It makes no sense.

The cops were trying to do the right thing and not just assume the man did it. I'm disgusted by 99% of these posts. The cops in that interaction knew that she was the aggressor and did the right thing. They shouldn't base their decisions on how cute and sweet someone is and you all know it.

You all are so hung up on how pretty, shy, small, sweet, white etc she is. That's where your sense of injustice comes from. She put her hands on him. No woman has any right to put their hands on another person.

⬆️ She seemed to be having a major manic episode. AND she admitted to the police she was the aggressor. BL was restraining her from attacking him. Her mania may have been going on for days. He was probably restraining her when he placed her in a chokehold and she died near the creek bed.

It seems like Gabby might have been bipolar maybe undiagnosed. It's more common among artistic temperament people are.

All the people in the doc saying BL was weird, BL was strange... it's just confirmation bias--he came across to me as a sensitive shy guy who had bitten off more than he could chew with Gabby. Not saying she deserved any of this--mental illness is no ones fault--but I think she just got crazy violent with him at the end and he snapped.

You sound like all the Chris Watts apologists.