Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:57     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that’s the only thing I can come up with and it’s grim.


What about server positions? Easily $40-$50 per hour.


Not when everyone in a specific region is laid off and tightening their belts. Restaurants will have trouble staying open as well.

Not true quite yet. My boss is calling me every day. Can't find restaurant workers in DC.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:56     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

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Anonymous wrote:Wal Mart
Target
Outback
Chilis
Five Guys
Merry Maids
Jiffy Lube


So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?

That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.


That’s your choice.


Wow!! Zero empathy. What happened to you to make you this inhuman?


The last four years of being told it was The Best Economy Ever™️.

You don't understand how angry people were to be ignored and mocked when we were all struggling.


Your struggles have absolutely nothing to do with the GS level employees. Also 80% of Feds are outside DC, many in red states like FL and TX, 30% are veterans. Is your vitriol geared toward them too or did you drink the kool aid about lazy feds with their multi million dollar homes in DC sitting around fancy dinner tables laughing about some private sector lay offs?

Like c‘mon. I refuse to believe anyone is truly this stupid.

You’re just angry and you want someone to suffer with you. But the thing is many feds are high educated and married to people in the private sector. We’ll cut back on house cleaners, and car detailing, and lawn care, and travel, and home renovation, and hair salons, which will trickle out to a lot of non feds.

You have no one but yourself to blame for any figure misery you suffer.


This- private sector here and I have been struggling and seeing lots of jobs cut and budgets slashed.
But I have consistently proposed on this board that I would support just continuing to pay every fed (what is it, 3% of budget)? and I don't.even.care if they work or wfh or what. They can focus on cutting the programs (and I know that impacts jobs further downstream) but keep the feds employed in a stable manner. It's too scary to think of that many people out of work at once and what will happen to the economy. Everyone is so evil to everyone else. I would completely support the feds getting free money like a UBI even if I don't get it because I'm not one. Same as I'm ok with student loan forgiveness and generous maternity leave; things I don't need. WTF is happening with society?

Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:55     Subject: Re:Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Who wants to teach armed children for $50K a year?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:54     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wal Mart
Target
Outback
Chilis
Five Guys
Merry Maids
Jiffy Lube


So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?

That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.


That’s your choice.


Wow!! Zero empathy. What happened to you to make you this inhuman?


The last four years of being told it was The Best Economy Ever™️.

You don't understand how angry people were to be ignored and mocked when we were all struggling.


Yep the lady sitting in a fed government payroll office or the low level SEC lawyer doing document review were certainly living in their $2mil homes in McLean, taking 4 vacations per year and laughing at your struggles rather than you know - trying to figure out how to buy a house themselves or pay the ever increasing electric and food bills. You're definitely mad at the right people :roll:

You're just playing the - I'm miserable, why shouldn't they be - game. Rather than blaming those in charge who closed their eyes and kept saying oh no economy is fantastic, nope no jobs are being exported to other countries, nope inflation is NBD.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:52     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

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Anonymous wrote:I kind of wonder what the enrollment impact will be on our public schools when families find themselves unable to afford private tuition too


That's one of the positive outcomes in my opinion. Private schools locally will tank, there are too many anyhow, and when you have educated parents reinvolved with public schools they will flourish.

Plus, super easy to become a substitute teacher to make a least part of the money to pay bills.


How many feds can afford to send their kids to private schools?


It depends on the school. Some religion based schools are not that expensive.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:52     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wal Mart
Target
Outback
Chilis
Five Guys
Merry Maids
Jiffy Lube


So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?

That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.


That’s your choice.


Wow!! Zero empathy. What happened to you to make you this inhuman?


The last four years of being told it was The Best Economy Ever™️.

You don't understand how angry people were to be ignored and mocked when we were all struggling.


Your struggles have absolutely nothing to do with the GS level employees. Also 80% of Feds are outside DC, many in red states like FL and TX, 30% are veterans. Is your vitriol geared toward them too or did you drink the kool aid about lazy feds with their multi million dollar homes in DC sitting around fancy dinner tables laughing about some private sector lay offs?

Like c‘mon. I refuse to believe anyone is truly this stupid.

You’re just angry and you want someone to suffer with you. But the thing is many feds are high educated and married to people in the private sector. We’ll cut back on house cleaners, and car detailing, and lawn care, and travel, and home renovation, and hair salons, which will trickle out to a lot of non feds.

You have no one but yourself to blame for any figure misery you suffer.


Nobody was mocking you, and your anger was envy. Call it what it is.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:51     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:Teaching! Can get hired immediately.


I need people to stop posting this. You can’t just walk into teaching.

It requires licensure. And even if you do an alternative route program, it’s going to take some time. You need special ed credits, reading credits, Praxis scores (or the equivalent), student teaching experience or time with a mentor, etc. And after all that, you need to survive your first classroom on your own.

I know people think this job is easy and anyone can do it, but that simply isn’t true. We have so many shortages right now because so many people can’t or don’t want to put up with the demands.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:51     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, look at a second degree nursing program. By the time your fork money ends you will be close to finished.


I’m not a fed but I am seriously considering this. From my research, though, they take several years?


Maybe PP is thinking of second degrees for people who already have a nursing degree.


I left nursing to work in the government. It's fine but you have to be prepared to work overnights. That didn't work for my family so I had to leave the profession. It does take at least a year or two to get trained. A lot of hospitals these days will want BSN at a minimum.


Look, health systems are also going to be in trouble. The cuts to Medicaid are apparently going to really take down a lot of health systems. I’ve spoken to people in the industry. I wouldn’t assume nursing is a guarantee either.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:49     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

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Anonymous wrote:I am all for increasing efficiency and not tolerating poor performance (to be clear, I think those cases are uncommon), but it seems to be that a slower, more measured approach to reducing government size would’ve been more effective. I am genuinely confused when these huge swaths of people are supposed to find employment - especially when the private sector / contractors are also doing layoffs.

What is the plan? We as a country also can’t sustain a significant chunk of the population being out of work…


I'm curious where your concerns have been for the last four years. Throughout this time, anyone who wasn't affiliated with the federal government has been shouting from the rooftops that white collar jobs were getting cut, and people were suffering as a result.

I'm guessing you were among those saying that Tysons II was crowded and that the right-wing individuals were just stupid and lazy.

For the past four years, the DMV bubble has been told that jobs were scarce and budgets were tight, but we were all ignored.

There has been zero sympathy. And I have none to give in return.


This isn’t a zero sum game, Sandra. Your persecution complex is the problem — not other people.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:48     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:It's time to think outside the box on income options.

For example, if you have a spare bedroom in your house, consider renting it out. I am divorced, and my kids are grown. As much as I hate the idea of a roommate, I would consider renting my two spare bedrooms as a last resort.

Other options include childcare, respite foster care, eldercare, substitute teaching, and dog walking. Many of the solutions will lie in the entrepreneurial realm.


childcare - agree, but there will be much less demand if these Gilead commanders get their way and less women are working

respite foster care - funded by who?

eldercare - hope Medicare holds up during the collapse

substitute teaching - no way, they are cutting school funding all over the place. We are less than 5 years from them putting 100+ kids in a room with a recorded curriculum. Maybe 1 or 2 minimum wage room monitors... or I don't even want to say this but "cell block" type rooms where guards video monitor multiple rooms and only intervene if there are problems. Sounds crazy now but schools have becoming more prisonish for decades and i guarantee cutting teachers and using tech in its place is on the docket.

Dog walking - with what disposable income? Again, more women at home. Some work here but trust that in the long vision, women are back to doing (even more) free domestic labor.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:47     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that’s the only thing I can come up with and it’s grim.


I don’t see anyone doing that.


Maybe lower GS will but higher GS will most likely not which is why people are worried about a “brain drain”. Those who have doctorate will go into private sector or seek employment internationally or at internationally funded agencies.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:47     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wal Mart
Target
Outback
Chilis
Five Guys
Merry Maids
Jiffy Lube


So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?

That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.


That’s your choice.


Wow!! Zero empathy. What happened to you to make you this inhuman?


The last four years of being told it was The Best Economy Ever™️.

You don't understand how angry people were to be ignored and mocked when we were all struggling.


I gave them empathy too. Not all of us are damaged. I'm from farming roots in the midwest, facing unemployment now. Perhaps it's not the best time for you to be so calloused and call it a left vs right thing.
It's an American thing we need to all be aware of. If you dont see it now, you'll be blindsided later.. I too think there will be lots of suicides in the next year - mostly middle aged white men with lots of responsibility and no prospects. Sadly ,we know we are worth more dead than alive. I've done the calculation.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:47     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wal Mart
Target
Outback
Chilis
Five Guys
Merry Maids
Jiffy Lube


So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?

That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.


That’s your choice.


Wow!! Zero empathy. What happened to you to make you this inhuman?


The last four years of being told it was The Best Economy Ever™️.

You don't understand how angry people were to be ignored and mocked when we were all struggling.


Your struggles have absolutely nothing to do with the GS level employees. Also 80% of Feds are outside DC, many in red states like FL and TX, 30% are veterans. Is your vitriol geared toward them too or did you drink the kool aid about lazy feds with their multi million dollar homes in DC sitting around fancy dinner tables laughing about some private sector lay offs?

Like c‘mon. I refuse to believe anyone is truly this stupid.

You’re just angry and you want someone to suffer with you. But the thing is many feds are high educated and married to people in the private sector. We’ll cut back on house cleaners, and car detailing, and lawn care, and travel, and home renovation, and hair salons, which will trickle out to a lot of non feds.

You have no one but yourself to blame for any figure misery you suffer.


DP. This may not land the way you want it to. A lot of us can’t afford house cleaners, car detailing, lawn care, travel, and home renovation. Those are luxuries. So cutting back on that stuff simply takes you to the lifestyle many of us are already living.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:46     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Teaching! Can get hired immediately.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2025 18:46     Subject: Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that’s the only thing I can come up with and it’s grim.


What about server positions? Easily $40-$50 per hour.


Not when everyone in a specific region is laid off and tightening their belts. Restaurants will have trouble staying open as well.


All those "service" jobs mentioned earlier will struggle to stay in business and will layoff too. Who has the money for those places when they are not employed? I've already cut them from my budget.


As have many of us NOT in the federal government. Things are so worrisome that many of us currently employed in fields that don't currently appear at risk are cutting discretionary spending. My husband and I are both teachers. We don't think we're at risk (but could be, who knows) but we've cut eating out by 80%, we're saving, not spending. And we're nowhere near DC. I don't trust anything anymore.