Any updates from CMS/ social security in Baltimore? Have the muskrats visited yet?

Why are we believing Musk who has already been proven to misreport which budget x came from and retweeted a fake video about USAID paying money to celebrities?

Why do you MAGAs just believe stuff without fact checking? Why are you ok with only cherry picking but not looking at all of the funds in entirety? That is not transparency whatsoever.

Anonymous wrote:Going after fraud, waste, and abuse seems quite reasonable and appropriate. It's too early to know whether those efforts will also ensnare legitimate payments, so getting hysterical about seniors and children who receive payments is premature. Outrage may be justified later, or maybe not at all.

The problem is that the way he goes after "fraud" is to kick everyone off of it, then slowly reverse on a case by case basis. In the meantime, millions would suffer.

That's how he handled Twitter layoffs and now we see, Fed firings.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk should certainly look into SS fraud. Isn’t it fraud that people live longer these days drawing on social security far longer than it was projected when they started paying into it? Throw grandma off the cliff, she’s lived long enough.

That was Obama's plan. 'We spend so much money for the last six months of life.'

Pretty much - end of life care is the most expensive aspect and we live in the USA where most folks don't have advanced directives.

Republicans don't want death panels, but they also don't want to pay for joe schmoe who has no family, had a major stroke, cannot move nor feed themself, but can still breathe on their own, to be cared for in a nursing home. Or maybe they do have family, but famliy cannot afford to pay 40 hours for a home aide not to mention all the equipment and supplies.

Let us know, is there somewhere we just dump them? Wheel them outside to the bus stop? What if they are semi-there and we keep them alive on a vent? What do we do with them?

This is the reality of the most expensive aspects of healthcare in the USA.

Every single state has a Medicaid fraud unit operating in their AG’s office, partially funded with federal dollars. Last year, they collectively recovered $ 7 billion dollars. If this was really about fraud, their budget should be increased.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.

no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.

Why on earth do you think social security is being paid to dead people?

I think you might be talking about survivor benefits.

My mother receives survivor benefits. My dad worked really hard his entire life. Due to the long hours and substantial travel, it was never feasible for my mom to work. She raised us and managed every aspect of our home. I know this is not the norm anymore, but it was at the time and worked well for them.

Do you think my mom should not get his SS? Then where should it go? Should she be on the streets and told to “grow up” and learn to take care of herself?

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I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

For those like you who are not paying attention and recognizing this psycho’s pattern, he arbitrarily declares fraud and then burns the whole thing down so there is nothing left. Wake up!

He’s counting on dumb people like the PP who just eat up his lies.

NP. The problem with responses like yours is that by going all the way to the extreme of suggesting that any fraud allegations are complete lies, you leave yourself open to be backhanded with the reams of evidence of fraud. You then look like a moron who is trying to cover up fraud.

There is indeed fraud. What we need to point out is that processes and procedures already exist to document and address fraud and waste in government spending. What Elon Musk is doing by reinventing the wheel is wasting government resources, driving costs even higher, and it's all a pretext to seize power for himself.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.

no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.

Where is the evidence that payments are made to people who are dead? This "150 year old" thing is not real.

This is how the 150 year old thing works.

Mr X, 85, takes a young 16 year old bride. Mr X is a social security recipient. When Mr X dies, his bride continues receiving payments as his widow. The payments remain associated to Mr X’s name. When the bride ultimately turns 81, Mr X is “150” in the system.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.

no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.

The Ketamine Krazy’s mo isn’t just to stop payments to dead people, but to stop them to EVERYONE because because “fraud, waste, and abuse.” And lapdog Donnie and his pathetic band of Stockholm Syndrome scaredy-cats in Congress who are selfishly just trying to protect their seats will just let it happen.

Thus far, Musk et al have not disclosed a single instance of fraud. They have gone through the USA Spending site and focused on titles they didn't like or didn't understand and summarily labeled it fraud. They have provided no evidence of fraud. Zero.

Moreover, no one on Musk's team has any training in discovering fraud. Or investigating it. Of course Musk himself is experienced in fraud as he has perpetrated it numerous times over the years.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.

no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.

Why on earth do you think social security is being paid to dead people?

It’s because Elon said so. There’s no other reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.

no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.

Where is the evidence that payments are made to people who are dead? This "150 year old" thing is not real.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.

no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.

Again, he also said there wasn’t identifying information. He’s making one of those things up.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

Yes, everyone knows that this is how it works. Lol. Nobody thinks their money is sitting in a shoebox somewhere with their name on it. If you think this is alarming, wait’ll you learn about banks! That money you deposit? They give it to someone else! And then when you make a withdrawal, they steal someone else’s money to give to you! Someone tell on so he can save us by confiscating all the money in all the banks!

Of course! You’re so smart. And everyone should know that the SS entitlement is not sustainable. But everyone wants to kick the can down the road “just a little farther”. But the farther we kick the can, the more abrupt and painful the scaling back will be. Both parties want the other party to do the initial hatchet job—here the Ds might get a win by letting Musk fire-up the chainsaw. Or are you afraid the younger generation will acknowledge that scaling SS back actually takes some burden off their back?

You are unbelievably naive.

You think SS is sustainable as currently operating? That’s naive.

Musk has zero authority to decide what social security payments get made and what payments don't get made, particularly at a scale that makes the program sustainable. You're beyond naive if you think this is a viable path toward a solution.

Oh. Yes. I’m dubious as to his authority or, if he has any, the scope of what he’s likely allowed to do. However, “viable” is such a flexible word. Musk doesn’t care about collateral damage.

But this isn’t about legal authority. It’s politics and messaging. The Rs have already convinced their base that some fiscal pain is necessary to make America “great”. So Musk (and the Rs) are betting that this is a political win. By pushing back, the Ds become proponents of fraud and waste and unsustainable fiscal policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.

no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.

Why on earth do you think social security is being paid to dead people?