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Anonymous wrote:Non-DMV selective private:

--Top 10% or high stats + hook: HYP+ Columbia + Penn (Wharton), Duke
--High stats, missing national level ECs or hook: Northwestern, Brown, Penn, Dartmouth, Williams
—national ECs (stats irrelevant): Stanford; (and sometimes) Duke
--High stats + normal ECs OR some flaw on their record (like a bad grade or two) and hook - Cornell, Chicago, Rice, Vanderbilt, Amherst, Georgetown
--Mid stats + no hook - Michigan; UCLA; Cal; WashU; Emory

Impressive for mid stats IMO!

I wouldn’t buy what OP is selling. At our magnet, top 10% are going to multiple "tiers" on this list. Kids, top 10% with national awards in at Brown, Northwestern and Dartmouth. These are not 2nd or 3rd "tier. " Such a weird waste of time.

Of course there are nuances. A couple years ago there was a kid at our school so desirable they could have gone anywhere (I can't give specifics, it would totally out them). Kid chose Brown for ED. We joked that the AO who saw the application probably cried with joy.

this is dumb. celebs with their choice of any school go to brown all the time. hermione from potter comes to mind

Would probably be helpful to list location of private school. It makes a difference.

Midwest privates definitely get kids closer to top 40% of class into Michigan, WashU, Emory etc. This whole exercise is so school specific.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Non-DMV selective private:

--Top 10% or high stats + hook: HYP+ Columbia + Penn (Wharton), Duke
--High stats, missing national level ECs or hook: Northwestern, Brown, Penn, Dartmouth, Williams
—national ECs (stats irrelevant): Stanford; (and sometimes) Duke
--High stats + normal ECs OR some flaw on their record (like a bad grade or two) and hook - Cornell, Chicago, Rice, Vanderbilt, Amherst, Georgetown
--Mid stats + no hook - Michigan; UCLA; Cal; WashU; Emory

Impressive for mid stats IMO!

I wouldn’t buy what OP is selling. At our magnet, top 10% are going to multiple "tiers" on this list. Kids, top 10% with national awards in at Brown, Northwestern and Dartmouth. These are not 2nd or 3rd "tier. " Such a weird waste of time.

Of course there are nuances. A couple years ago there was a kid at our school so desirable they could have gone anywhere (I can't give specifics, it would totally out them). Kid chose Brown for ED. We joked that the AO who saw the application probably cried with joy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Non-DMV selective private:

--Top 10% or high stats + hook: HYP+ Columbia + Penn (Wharton), Duke
--High stats, missing national level ECs or hook: Northwestern, Brown, Penn, Dartmouth, Williams
—national ECs (stats irrelevant): Stanford; (and sometimes) Duke
--High stats + normal ECs OR some flaw on their record (like a bad grade or two) and hook - Cornell, Chicago, Rice, Vanderbilt, Amherst, Georgetown
--Mid stats + no hook - Michigan; UCLA; Cal; WashU; Emory

Impressive for mid stats IMO!

I wouldn’t buy what OP is selling. At our magnet, top 10% are going to multiple "tiers" on this list. Kids, top 10% with national awards in at Brown, Northwestern and Dartmouth. These are not 2nd or 3rd "tier. " Such a weird waste of time.

Anonymous wrote:I think list from specific high schools are meaningful but a weak app will sink you and a strong app can move you up a “level”

True but that applies everywhere for everyone.
So it’s not relevant to this convo? It’s like saying the rest of the application matters.
No shit Sherlock.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke RD yield less than 50% for a reason

Every school not named Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT gave RD yield less than 50%

complete bullshit. chicago, notre dame, and every ivy has rd above 50%

caltech too

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Anonymous wrote:Duke RD yield less than 50% for a reason

Every school not named Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT gave RD yield less than 50%

complete bullshit. chicago, notre dame, and every ivy has rd above 50%

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Anonymous wrote:IMO this is a very interesting post.

Shows that your high school's relationship with certain colleges is likely a very underrated part of the process.

And also, which goes hand in hand, that the kid's peers' perception of certain colleges matters as well.

So agree, the high school relationship is key, so it’s kind of annoying when people treat their own high school’s record as gospel for the whole.

That’s why 80% of the advice here is irrelevant.
Ask around in your school.
Follow the stats and admissions for years in your school.

Anonymous wrote:IMO this is a very interesting post.

Shows that your high school's relationship with certain colleges is likely a very underrated part of the process.

And also, which goes hand in hand, that the kid's peers' perception of certain colleges matters as well.

So agree, the high school relationship is key, so it’s kind of annoying when people treat their own high school’s record as gospel for the whole.

I think list from specific high schools are meaningful but a weak app will sink you and a strong app can move you up a “level”

Kid went to a selective NYC public as well and those stats seem high to me… I also think it is really hard to know who is top 10% and true stats. And some kids simply have a preference. My child was top 10% at super selective NYC with high stats and a strong hook but chose a SLAc not on most of above lists. Other kids got into top schools perhaps due to hardships overcome etc. And some with top stats but no strong hook/crazy EC or just wanted merit in what you call mid stats. A lot of factors go into these decisions which makes these lists somewhat meaningless.

Anonymous wrote:Boring, more handwringing over schools your kids won’t even get into….!

Good lord 🙄

Anonymous wrote:Duke RD yield less than 50% for a reason

Every school not named Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT gave RD yield less than 50%

Your high school matters more than anything else.

Anonymous wrote:IMO this is a very interesting post.

Shows that your high school's relationship with certain colleges is likely a very underrated part of the process.

And also, which goes hand in hand, that the kid's peers' perception of certain colleges matters as well.

the top 20 colleges know how kids from top 100 high school perform at their school.

If Suzie Smith from East Lake High goes to Harvard and becomes a Rhodes Scholar, that's very good for East Lake High.

If she is the ringleader for a hazing incident at Dartmouth that lands the college on national news, East Lake High is dead to them.

It's not really rational ..