Anonymous wrote:i'm cisgender and in no way consider being called cisgender offensive. It's like being called heterosexual, which I also don't think is offensive.
Anonymous wrote:Republicans are only big mad about trans folks because that's yet another minority that is superior to their boring, white, male cisgendered selves.
Minorities have surpassed white dudes in almost every aspect of life: most sports, educational aptitude, most workplace sectors. White dudes are notoriously fragile beings. The old ones are scared about the society their younger white offspring have to live in.
I mean, they can't have sex with drunk girls and get away with it anymore! They can't skate by on looks and light flirting with their HS teachers to pass classes. They can't even have being great at a sport to use as a sure-fire way to get into college because the demographics are shifting so quickly that more and more minorities are getting the scholarships over white dudes. They can't apply to a job fresh out of college with a strong white name like William Bradley Adams IV and automatically get the position. They don't get raises and promotions just for being mediocre white dudes in the office... and they are pissed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Her tweet sticking up for herself after the fact was worse than the event. She's a classless bully.
jsteele wrote:Mace's goal is to provoke attacks on her that she can later use to portray herself as a victim and fundraise off of. Her fundraising will be something along the lines of "I stood up for keeping men out of women's sports and bathrooms and was attacked for it". She will not disclose her own provocation because that would not be effective in raising funds simply because most Trump supporters don't support such behavior.
Jeff has it pinned down exactly right. She's made it clear it she wants to run for Governor in 2026. She's desperately trying to get as notorious as possible until then, and is practically screaming "pick me pick me" for Trump's attention.
I'm one of her constituents and today Thomas Ravenel, former Bravo reality star and a short-lived state Treasurer who had to leave office to serve jail time for a cocaine conviction, announced he wants to run too. If it pans out that they run against each other as Republicans, I would hold my nose and vote for Ravenel in a heartbeat.
You'd vote for a male coke-addicted felon over a woman who hurt your feelings. If that doesn't tell the story of you pro-trans misogynists, I don't know what does.
Says you, someone who voted for a male adderall-addicted felon over a woman who hurt your feelings.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Her tweet sticking up for herself after the fact was worse than the event. She's a classless bully.
jsteele wrote:Mace's goal is to provoke attacks on her that she can later use to portray herself as a victim and fundraise off of. Her fundraising will be something along the lines of "I stood up for keeping men out of women's sports and bathrooms and was attacked for it". She will not disclose her own provocation because that would not be effective in raising funds simply because most Trump supporters don't support such behavior.
Jeff has it pinned down exactly right. She's made it clear it she wants to run for Governor in 2026. She's desperately trying to get as notorious as possible until then, and is practically screaming "pick me pick me" for Trump's attention.
I'm one of her constituents and today Thomas Ravenel, former Bravo reality star and a short-lived state Treasurer who had to leave office to serve jail time for a cocaine conviction, announced he wants to run too. If it pans out that they run against each other as Republicans, I would hold my nose and vote for Ravenel in a heartbeat.
You'd vote for a male coke-addicted felon over a woman who hurt your feelings. If that doesn't tell the story of you pro-trans misogynists, I don't know what does.
Anonymous wrote:One of the great things that Trump is doing is tapping into the 100% disagreement that Democrats have for everything he does. There are issues where the majority of Americans are agree with him (such as women's sports being limited to biological women), but Democrats have such knee-jerk opposition to anything he does, they take the losing side of issues.
He is a smart man and he is trolling the Dems into taking dumb positions. But go ahead, keep underestimating him and saying he is an idiot.
Thanks, when the parade ? I feel so special, I need affirmation from every other gender/sexual identity, and news coverage, gotta have that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, when is Cis affinity month ? And when is the parade ? Everyone else gets a parade, I want mine (because I’m special for being Cis).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me put a different question to those here who think what Mace did was shocking and offensive.
Why do you insist on using the term “cisgender” or “cis” to describe heterosexual people?
It’s been made abundantly clear over the last several years that there is a large percentage of the heterosexual community, female and male alike, that consider the term offensive and a slur. Yet it’s still used as a defacto default term for heterosexual people. Why is this happening? You KNOW it’s an offensive term, but you use it anyway.
How is this ok?
cisgender is not the same as heterosexual. Gay people can be cisgender (and most are).
“Cisgender” means traditional gender aspects and mannerisms consistent with sex assigned at birth, including masculine or feminine traits and social mores, and a sexual attraction to the opposite biological sex. Unless a gay man was only attracted to other gay men who themselves are transgendered and identified only as heterosexual women, it would be difficult to suggest that that gay man was cisgender.
Every single month and every single day of the f**king year. Apparently you're not very perceptive.
Anonymous wrote:Her tweet sticking up for herself after the fact was worse than the event. She's a classless bully.
jsteele wrote:Mace's goal is to provoke attacks on her that she can later use to portray herself as a victim and fundraise off of. Her fundraising will be something along the lines of "I stood up for keeping men out of women's sports and bathrooms and was attacked for it". She will not disclose her own provocation because that would not be effective in raising funds simply because most Trump supporters don't support such behavior.
Jeff has it pinned down exactly right. She's made it clear it she wants to run for Governor in 2026. She's desperately trying to get as notorious as possible until then, and is practically screaming "pick me pick me" for Trump's attention.
I'm one of her constituents and today Thomas Ravenel, former Bravo reality star and a short-lived state Treasurer who had to leave office to serve jail time for a cocaine conviction, announced he wants to run too. If it pans out that they run against each other as Republicans, I would hold my nose and vote for Ravenel in a heartbeat.
jsteele wrote:Mace's goal is to provoke attacks on her that she can later use to portray herself as a victim and fundraise off of. Her fundraising will be something along the lines of "I stood up for keeping men out of women's sports and bathrooms and was attacked for it". She will not disclose her own provocation because that would not be effective in raising funds simply because most Trump supporters don't support such behavior.
Anonymous wrote:Ok, when is Cis affinity month ? And when is the parade ? Everyone else gets a parade, I want mine (because I’m special for being Cis).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me put a different question to those here who think what Mace did was shocking and offensive.
Why do you insist on using the term “cisgender” or “cis” to describe heterosexual people?
It’s been made abundantly clear over the last several years that there is a large percentage of the heterosexual community, female and male alike, that consider the term offensive and a slur. Yet it’s still used as a defacto default term for heterosexual people. Why is this happening? You KNOW it’s an offensive term, but you use it anyway.
How is this ok?
cisgender is not the same as heterosexual. Gay people can be cisgender (and most are).
“Cisgender” means traditional gender aspects and mannerisms consistent with sex assigned at birth, including masculine or feminine traits and social mores, and a sexual attraction to the opposite biological sex. Unless a gay man was only attracted to other gay men who themselves are transgendered and identified only as heterosexual women, it would be difficult to suggest that that gay man was cisgender.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Mace's goal is to provoke attacks on her that she can later use to portray herself as a victim and fundraise off of. Her fundraising will be something along the lines of "I stood up for keeping men out of women's sports and bathrooms and was attacked for it". She will not disclose her own provocation because that would not be effective in raising funds simply because most Trump supporters don't support such behavior.
I'm a reluctant Trump voter, not MAGA, but I did vote Trump this time. I do not support self-ID, trans women in women's spaces, or the way the left has swung too hard towards the extreme on trans issues. At the same time, I don't support what Nancy Mace is doing. It's possible to fight back against excesses without gleeful cruelty. Refraining from using words for a population that the group considers to be slurs on them isn't a lot to ask. Trans people are Americans too and they're entitled to liberty and the pursuit of happiness like all of us. A trans person should be able to go to work, pick up their kid from school, go grocery shopping, get medical care, get married, and live life without being afraid they'll be called names and shamed in the streets. That's not what this should be about.
Every social issue is a headache and heartache nowadays because both parties are extreme. Trump and Mace are going to take this backlash too far, but Dems aren't going to turn moderate either. Crappy choices all the time.
I agree with all of this. But as to the bolded, many, many women have said they consider cis, menstruator, etc to be slurs. That has not been respected at all. In fact, women who politely said they didn’t like those terms have been told to shut up and worse from trans rights advocates. Some got rape threats for that. I’m not defending Mace’s use of the slur, but I see very little reflection from trans rights advocates for their use of demeaning slurs.
I think there needs to be some accountability across the board here.
She’s not just some yahoo on twitter. She’s is a committee meeting that has rules of decorum. Fetterman can’t wear a sweatshirt, but she can use slurs? Give me a break.
Anonymous wrote:i'm cisgender and in no way consider being called cisgender offensive. It's like being called heterosexual, which I also don't think is offensive.