Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:48     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:44     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


He isn't from WV. He's from Ohio.

The part of Ohio he’s from might as well be West Virginia.


LOL he grew up in a suburb between Cincinnati and Dayton. It's literally the most anodyne location in the country.

Republicans act like he grew up in a holler.


+1. His life story is the fakest most astroturfed thing I’ve ever seen. NY Times ran point on it too.


Middletown! So many people need to get better BS meters. It is embarrassing how people ate up the BS story.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:43     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Yes it is.
Do some of you idiots not understand that DEI is not giving a person a job it is opening up the pool of applicants to a wider array of applicants.
QUALIFIED APPPLICANTS!
THAT INCLUDES VETERANS.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:43     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
So we allow all low incoming people to not get housing or food or medical needs met because they can’t afford to pay? Because funding those programs would be a form of DEI.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:43     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.


No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.


You mean preferential treatment due to a service you provided your country, and not due to the color of your skin or your gender? Oh.
DP
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:41     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:It is a valid reward for their service. It comes with no guarantees of a job.



In what contract does this reward fall? And how come before now it wasn’t a reward, particularly for minorities military who face discrimination not only within the military itself but also hiring outside.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:40     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.



What part of “it’s still giving preference to a group” don’t you understand?



DP, DEI does not mean giving preference to a group. It means trying to erase barriers that have been preventing other groups from accessing something. So for example, if a certain profession requires expensive training, then providing scholarships for underrepresented groups (whatever group that may be) would be an effective DEI initiative. I believe at one point that was done for some aviation jobs. DEI does not mean making tests easier or promoting minorities.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:37     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.


Because hiring more disabled veterans was the original focus of the FAA's DEI policy that Trump has been throwing around (and which actually came from HIS first administration).
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 17:35     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Veterans and get special DEI status in the US government.

I was once contacted by an HR department in the DoD, who let me know I was the top ranking candidate, but there were all ten veterans who made the cut, so I was probably not going to be interviewed. I'm a white woman.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 15:33     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


He isn't from WV. He's from Ohio.

The part of Ohio he’s from might as well be West Virginia.


LOL he grew up in a suburb between Cincinnati and Dayton. It's literally the most anodyne location in the country.

Republicans act like he grew up in a holler.


+1. His life story is the fakest most astroturfed thing I’ve ever seen. NY Times ran point on it too.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 15:27     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:Veteran status is often given preference, so yes. Like race and disability, they must be qualified first but yes, they will be given preference once that’s established.


When something is given preference, it doesn't automatically equate to DEI.

Someone may be given preference because they graduated college or HS with a high GPA. Or, they may be given preference because they have successfully managed people in another position. Or they may be given preference because they have experience with a particular software or system.
Lots of reason there is preference in hiring. Basing hiring on race, gender, sexual orientation, or other quality that does not equate to experience or merit is DEI.
You people are so uninformed.
So in a school setting, legacy status is DEI, right?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 15:25     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.


No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.


No silly argument. Any race and members of both genders can become a veteran.
So you're good with extra help based on economic diversity then, right?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 14:38     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.



What part of “it’s still giving preference to a group” don’t you understand?

Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 14:11     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:Military service is not DEI. The US military is incredibly diverse. Less than 50 percent of soldiers are white males. Whatever preference federal hiring may give to former service members, it's not because of their race, gender, orientation etc. It's simply a recognition of their service to the country and to give them a small boost as they transition into the civilian world. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If people are upset about it, they have every opportunity to serve themselves.

Well said.


Nobody is upset about it. But it is a form of DEI.


No one is upset, because Veterans are owed this. Veterans are a cut bellow, they require hiring preferences, that goes beyond DEI.

How are they owed this? The argument other than straight up racism against DEI is everything should be based on merit. Automatically giving preference because of veterans status goes against being based solely on merit alone. Clearly that means Veterans status falls neatly into your failed understanding of DEI.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 14:07     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


He isn't from WV. He's from Ohio.

The part of Ohio he’s from might as well be West Virginia.


Ummm. No. It isn’t even close to WV. It is near Dayton.