Anonymous wrote:When they sent the two USDA agencies to Kansas City during Trump 1, there was an initial promise of $25k for a VERA/VSIP. In the end, because the clowns didn't budget enough money, the amount paid was about half.

Say tbis again for the people in the back!

Anonymous wrote:Ftr, I am already RTO, although telework is currently unclear.

I'm confused though. Is this buyout-not-buyout legal? Or will it be enjoined too?

I think it’s probably not legal and they know this. The plan is to get people to resign, then have the government accept resignation and the courts will determine that the buyout is not legal. However, the people have already quit so that resignation will remain, but people are screwed out of the illegal compensation offer.

Wow. Such a dirty trick by Elon.

It is not a buyout. You may still have to work from home until Sept. if you take the deal. You're just agreeing to quit in Sept. may still have to work the whole time.

Apparently Elon crafted nearly an identical email for Twitter. Such a dirty, dirty move
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We do not have a king in the united states. However, the office of the president has king-like powers. When you have someone willing to test the limits of those powers, we end up in this situation. I personally do not blame President Trump. I blame our supreme court for citizens united and continuously expanding the powers of the executive branch.

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Anonymous wrote:i'm not a government employee so I don't know what the norm is but this sounds pretty good to me. Last time I was let go, I was given like 2 months severance.

It’s not as good as if they officially RIF you. If you wait for the government to lay you off, you will be given more than this.

Unless you are retiring or you really can’t figure out RTO, it doesn’t make much sense

How is a RIF better?

To someone in private industry this is a HUGE handout. Most give a few weeks to a few months. One company I worked with pushed fire dates up to end of month, so as to not let folks get health insurance for another month. I was in meeting where this was decided , big GSEs.

Falling for it? Can you not just work in the office?

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Anonymous wrote:It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.

That's how it read to me.

Hope someone has already lawyered up and taken them up on it.

I am concerned by the people falling for it. But it is being reported completely inaccurately and many people here are clearly not feds who got the email. But to any feds out there— please read the terms of what they’re offering extremely carefully.

When they sent the two USDA agencies to Kansas City during Trump 1, there was an initial promise of $25k for a VERA/VSIP. In the end, because the clowns didn't budget enough money, the amount paid was about half.

Anonymous wrote:It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.

+1 I read the email and I’m confused how anyone could take it any other way? They are saying if you don’t want to return to in person work, say so by responding to the email and you will be exempted from RTO policies AND that you will therefore resign by Sept. 30. I doubt anyone is going to get admin leave until Sept. 30 with how understaffed everyone is all the time.

I guess you’d take it if you really didn’t want to/couldn’t work in person and were confident that you could find another job by Sept. 30. But it’s not an “8 month buyout” or whatever the hell the media is inaccurately reporting.

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Anonymous wrote:This is bad news for the technical people who work for places like PTO. They’ll take the deal and get more lucrative jobs. Offices are stuck without competent people.

Telling the PTO to RTO is bizarre. They've had a unique hoteling arrangement for decades, nothing to do with the pandemic or anything else. Only a dolt would tell them to go back in the building.

+1
They should have grandfathered positions that were already remote pre Covid.

Anonymous wrote:Ftr, I am already RTO, although telework is currently unclear.

I'm confused though. Is this buyout-not-buyout legal? Or will it be enjoined too?

It's most likely not legal. He does not have the authority to appropriate funds. It'll get tied up in the courts and likely struck down, while you will already have resigned. Do not do this. Hes dangling money in front of you to get you to be complicit in his takeover of the government. It's so much bigger than you as an individual.

Anonymous wrote:It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.

That's how it read to me.

Hope someone has already lawyered up and taken them up on it.

Anonymous wrote:All of this because you can't go back to work in an office like other people in the private sector do every day?

No, all this is because Trump wants to fire everyone and that's not how any of this works.

Sure people complain about a RTO that is a complete cluster f*ck and doesn't take into account all the pre Covid telework.

I've never seen more incomprehensible plans in my life, and I've worked in a lot of private industry positions as well as government. It reads like it is written by AI,.or someone who has never met a human.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because you can't go back to work in an office like other people in the private sector do every day?

Many federal employees are fine with being back in the office. The ones who aren't are disproportionately represented here. Though I admit, they don't represent the federal workforce well.

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It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.