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Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M.

Eh if her kids are in private middle school, she doesn't need to worry about it.

False. She has no idea now if her kids will have a 4.5 GPA, a 35 ACT or a 1520 SAT, which is the 75th percentile of last fall's class at UVA - and pretty much what you need to compete successfully for a slot from NOVA. Competition for in-state schools is only going to go up as privates approach $100k a year. (USC is now $96k)

Private middle school = two smart parents with money = those kids aren't going to have a problem getting into UVA.

DP. This is not even remotely true.

I’m sorry you are painfully stupid.

why do you care so much that you have to resort to insulting this PP. It is ture and they are not "painfully stupid". Ask any public or private college counselor. Simply "being in a private middle school with parents with money - as was suggested" - does NOT mean automatic in to UVA just like a similad
r case in CA does not mean an auto in to UCLA or Cal. The kid has to have the stats (and, yes, TO is going away for UVA in fall of 2026) and the ECs and LORs to make an meritorious application and then sit and pray be Use there are only 5,000 seats (unlike UCLA and Cal) and of course URM and first-gen helps.

Oh, I get it you are a rival kid at VT. Go to bed.

DP. Really sick of you always trotting out this line when someone criticizes UVA. You have no idea who is posting, and I guarantee you, the kids at VT aren't giving a second thought to UVA. Stop trying to implicate a school with zero proof.

VT is UVA's rival. The students troll here all the time as do DCUM high schoolers.

Anonymous wrote:I’m laying the groundwork for a brief divorce and me taking residence in a Va. hinterland bachelor pad around when my kid’s college applications become more real.

Fear not, there will be a blissful reunion and re-marriage with my wife soon after.

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

You actually believe everything she says? She's a marketing person! That's what college AOs are now - they will say anything to get your kid to apply so they can be rejected which drives down the acceptance and selectivity percentages. If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero. Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ. She maynot want to call it "quotas" but it happens.

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Is it just the one person who is ALWAYS parroting "Dean J"? "Dean J says this/that!" It's so incredibly annoying.

Yeah why would you believe an Associate Dean of Admission rather than some anonymous rando on DCUM?

because we know college admissions. we know AOs are indeed marketing people whose success in the end of the day comes down to that sentence they send out to alums (and ranking services) that says " Once Again (insert name of school) has received a record number of applications at 60,000 out of which we could accept only ---- making our selectivity drop to 12%. Rah rah! insert name of school). That is the game being played.

If all they want is more applications and the job is just marketing, why does UVA talk about taking the best program and four years of language? That scares people away. That doesn’t get more applications.

Because at the same time they also post saying "it's not just about grades" or "it's not just about test scores" immediately before admissions results are released showing selectivity has dropped to 12% for in-state. Or they use the euphemism "wholistic" which translates "we do whatever we want", especially when it comes to URM and first gen status. If you attend an info session, almost all of the questions are answered in an affirming way to emcourage your kid to apply. As to expected ("most") rigor and 4 years of foreign language, that's what all the T25s want to see.

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M.

Eh if her kids are in private middle school, she doesn't need to worry about it.

False. She has no idea now if her kids will have a 4.5 GPA, a 35 ACT or a 1520 SAT, which is the 75th percentile of last fall's class at UVA - and pretty much what you need to compete successfully for a slot from NOVA. Competition for in-state schools is only going to go up as privates approach $100k a year. (USC is now $96k)

Private middle school = two smart parents with money = those kids aren't going to have a problem getting into UVA.

DP. This is not even remotely true.

I’m sorry you are painfully stupid.

why do you care so much that you have to resort to insulting this PP. It is ture and they are not "painfully stupid". Ask any public or private college counselor. Simply "being in a private middle school with parents with money - as was suggested" - does NOT mean automatic in to UVA just like a similad
r case in CA does not mean an auto in to UCLA or Cal. The kid has to have the stats (and, yes, TO is going away for UVA in fall of 2026) and the ECs and LORs to make an meritorious application and then sit and pray be Use there are only 5,000 seats (unlike UCLA and Cal) and of course URM and first-gen helps.

Oh, I get it you are a rival kid at VT. Go to bed.

I’m sorry you are also stupid. I did not say “automatic” admission to UVA. But any intelligent person (ie not you or the other PP) recognizes that these kids are, to a very high degree of probability, in a demographic that will have no problem getting into UVA.

Why are you even talking about UCLA or Cal? Oh yeah it’s because you’re stupid.

I’m the other PP and this is still wrong. It’s almost like you don’t know anything about UVA admissions, or the demographics of northern VA. Why are you even here?

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

You actually believe everything she says? She's a marketing person! That's what college AOs are now - they will say anything to get your kid to apply so they can be rejected which drives down the acceptance and selectivity percentages. If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero. Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ. She maynot want to call it "quotas" but it happens.

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Is it just the one person who is ALWAYS parroting "Dean J"? "Dean J says this/that!" It's so incredibly annoying.

Yeah why would you believe an Associate Dean of Admission rather than some anonymous rando on DCUM?

because we know college admissions. we know AOs are indeed marketing people whose success in the end of the day comes down to that sentence they send out to alums (and ranking services) that says " Once Again (insert name of school) has received a record number of applications at 60,000 out of which we could accept only ---- making our selectivity drop to 12%. Rah rah! insert name of school). That is the game being played.

If all they want is more applications and the job is just marketing, why does UVA talk about taking the best program and four years of language? That scares people away. That doesn’t get more applications.

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

You actually believe everything she says? She's a marketing person! That's what college AOs are now - they will say anything to get your kid to apply so they can be rejected which drives down the acceptance and selectivity percentages. If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero. Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ. She maynot want to call it "quotas" but it happens.

She has no reason to lie. She has no reason to "market" UVA. Everyone in Virginia knows what UVA is, thousands of kids want in, and the majority of those admitted will attend.

"If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero."

Um, why does this surprise you? It's exactly what you should expect. The smartest and most qualified applicants are in NoVA not in the south/west of the state.

"Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ."

Again, why does this surprise you? There are LOTS of smart kids at Langley.

You're going to have to do better than that to sell the Quota Conspiracy.

DP. Just regarding the bolded, they only have a 16% yield rate for OOS students, and barely over 50% yield rate for in-state.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile/234076/University-of-Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M.

Eh if her kids are in private middle school, she doesn't need to worry about it.

False. She has no idea now if her kids will have a 4.5 GPA, a 35 ACT or a 1520 SAT, which is the 75th percentile of last fall's class at UVA - and pretty much what you need to compete successfully for a slot from NOVA. Competition for in-state schools is only going to go up as privates approach $100k a year. (USC is now $96k)

Private middle school = two smart parents with money = those kids aren't going to have a problem getting into UVA.

DP. This is not even remotely true.

I’m sorry you are painfully stupid.

why do you care so much that you have to resort to insulting this PP. It is ture and they are not "painfully stupid". Ask any public or private college counselor. Simply "being in a private middle school with parents with money - as was suggested" - does NOT mean automatic in to UVA just like a similad
r case in CA does not mean an auto in to UCLA or Cal. The kid has to have the stats (and, yes, TO is going away for UVA in fall of 2026) and the ECs and LORs to make an meritorious application and then sit and pray be Use there are only 5,000 seats (unlike UCLA and Cal) and of course URM and first-gen helps.

Oh, I get it you are a rival kid at VT. Go to bed.

DP. Really sick of you always trotting out this line when someone criticizes UVA. You have no idea who is posting, and I guarantee you, the kids at VT aren't giving a second thought to UVA. Stop trying to implicate a school with zero proof.

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

You actually believe everything she says? She's a marketing person! That's what college AOs are now - they will say anything to get your kid to apply so they can be rejected which drives down the acceptance and selectivity percentages. If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero. Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ. She maynot want to call it "quotas" but it happens.

She has no reason to lie. She has no reason to "market" UVA. Everyone in Virginia knows what UVA is, thousands of kids want in, and the majority of those admitted will attend.

"If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero."

Um, why does this surprise you? It's exactly what you should expect. The smartest and most qualified applicants are in NoVA not in the south/west of the state.

"Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ."

Again, why does this surprise you? There are LOTS of smart kids at Langley.

You're going to have to do better than that to sell the Quota Conspiracy.

DP. Just regarding the bolded, they only have a 16% yield rate for OOS students, and barely over 50% yield rate for in-state.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile/234076/University-of-Virginia

UVA has a 16% OOS yield rate?

That's awful for a T25 school.

Agreed.

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

[b]No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

You actually believe everything she says? She's a marketing person! That's what college AOs are now - they will say anything to get your kid to apply so they can be rejected which drives down the acceptance and selectivity percentages. If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero. Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ. She maynot want to call it "quotas" but it happens.

She has no reason to lie. She has no reason to "market" UVA. Everyone in Virginia knows what UVA is, thousands of kids want in, and the majority of those admitted will attend.

"If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero."

Um, why does this surprise you? It's exactly what you should expect. The smartest and most qualified applicants are in NoVA not in the south/west of the state.

"Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ."

Again, why does this surprise you? There are LOTS of smart kids at Langley.

You're going to have to do better than that to sell the Quota Conspiracy.

DP. Just regarding the bolded, they only have a 16% yield rate for OOS students, and barely over 50% yield rate for in-state.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile/234076/University-of-Virginia

UVA has a 16% OOS yield rate?

That's awful for a T25 school.