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Anonymous wrote:Bit of advice. Stop talking about MAP scores. You'll sound silly. They are irrelevant in the magnet. Many kids have MAP above 300 and there's no correlation between MAP and the classes they take and how they do or whether they are a star on the math team or would never touch math team with a 10 foot pole.

Interesting. I have 3 kids and have followed their map scores for years. If found them to be pretty reflective of their math skills.

You have three kids in HS in the magnet? Once you are in the 290-300+ range which DC says basically everyone is either coming into the magnet or after the first year it does not really seem to reflect much of anything. By the end of 1st semester of year 1 of magnet everyone has the base knowledge to do any MAP problems which are really easy compared to magnet problems. But I'm sure it helps to follow the scores when they are younger or in lower math to track progress.

No, my other kids are younger, and the oldest was just accepted to Blair. I don't have any experience with HS math classes, which is why I am asking questions. But I do have experience with the entirety of MAP-m range.

Since we were told that the median map of the incoming class is in the 270s I could see how the score could be used for placement, given that there is little other information available. From my experience, comparing the exact same child over time, the difference between 270ish and 320ish is significant. DC would not be able to follow the same material at 270 as they could as their score went up. That I can tell you for sure.

I get it that the score doesn't matter "after the first semester". I sure hope so. But that's a lot of math later.

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Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.

Thank you. They are not in TPMS and we need to travel abroad in mid June. Is summer camp crucial?

This is out of date. The summer camp hasn’t happened for the past two years. Instead the kids get a take home test to submit IF they are interested. They have to be honest in taking it in timed conditions. TPMS teachers do NOT make recommendations. Many kids that get in to functions drop out. If they don’t have a certain grade at a certain point they are required to switch back to precalc.

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Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.

Thank you. They are not in TPMS and we need to travel abroad in mid June. Is summer camp crucial?

No, you can just have your child register for whatever class, Functions or Pre-cal, they want. They will send you a Google registration form after you accept going to Blair. Factoring camp just helps them assess for recommendations but they are not rigid about it. Hence, the weeding out process for Functions is something that happens after they are in the class for I think 2 months and not before that. Before you ask lots of brilliant kids drop out of it. No one cares. I think in one thread a poster said every kid is roughly the same smart and I think that's right based on what the program director says. Choosing functions or not choosing functions is more about how they want to spend their time.

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Anonymous wrote:Bit of advice. Stop talking about MAP scores. You'll sound silly. They are irrelevant in the magnet. Many kids have MAP above 300 and there's no correlation between MAP and the classes they take and how they do or whether they are a star on the math team or would never touch math team with a 10 foot pole.

Interesting. I have 3 kids and have followed their map scores for years. If found them to be pretty reflective of their math skills.

You have three kids in HS in the magnet? Once you are in the 290-300+ range which DC says basically everyone is either coming into the magnet or after the first year it does not really seem to reflect much of anything. By the end of 1st semester of year 1 of magnet everyone has the base knowledge to do any MAP problems which are really easy compared to magnet problems. But I'm sure it helps to follow the scores when they are younger or in lower math to track progress.

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Anonymous wrote:Bit of advice. Stop talking about MAP scores. You'll sound silly. They are irrelevant in the magnet. Many kids have MAP above 300 and there's no correlation between MAP and the classes they take and how they do or whether they are a star on the math team or would never touch math team with a 10 foot pole.

Interesting. I have 3 kids and have followed their map scores for years. If found them to be pretty reflective of their math skills.

MAP score "rank" roughly matches math skill "rank", but can be a poor match for students who focus a lot only on higher-level school math or only on highly enriched grade-level subjects. Many students do both, so aren't affected by this.

It is reflective of knowledge up to about 290 (Algebra 2 + basic stats), but for highly above grade level / enrolled course scores doesn't distinguish exposure to the recipes via Khan/IXL vs solving previously unseen problems via personal innovation, and it doesn't test depth at the level of Magnet math. So it's a noisy signal for ability to handle enriched content.

(See all the posts about math homework, and only math homework, taking hours per night. This is not intended by the teachers; these are students who hyper-accelerated without sufficient depth of understanding, because they weren't challenged to stretch beyond the basic school curriculum.)

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Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.

Thank you. They are not in TPMS and we need to travel abroad in mid June. Is summer camp crucial?

This is out of date. The summer camp hasn’t happened for the past two years. Instead the kids get a take home test to submit IF they are interested. They have to be honest in taking it in timed conditions. TPMS teachers do NOT make recommendations. Many kids that get in to functions drop out. If they don’t have a certain grade at a certain point they are required to switch back to precalc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.

Thank you. They are not in TPMS and we need to travel abroad in mid June. Is summer camp crucial?

This is out of date. The summer camp hasn’t happened for the past two years. Instead the kids get a take home test to submit IF they are interested. They have to be honest in taking it in timed conditions. TPMS teachers do NOT make recommendations. Many kids that get in to functions drop out. If they don’t have a certain grade at a certain point they are required to switch back to precalc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.

Thank you. They are not in TPMS and we need to travel abroad in mid June. Is summer camp crucial?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bit of advice. Stop talking about MAP scores. You'll sound silly. They are irrelevant in the magnet. Many kids have MAP above 300 and there's no correlation between MAP and the classes they take and how they do or whether they are a star on the math team or would never touch math team with a 10 foot pole.

Interesting. I have 3 kids and have followed their map scores for years. If found them to be pretty reflective of their math skills.

Anonymous wrote:Bit of advice. Stop talking about MAP scores. You'll sound silly. They are irrelevant in the magnet. Many kids have MAP above 300 and there's no correlation between MAP and the classes they take and how they do or whether they are a star on the math team or would never touch math team with a 10 foot pole.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.

Thank you. They are not in TPMS and we need to travel abroad in mid June. Is summer camp crucial?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.

What is factoring camp? This is the first I've heard of summer requirements for the magnet. Is there any more information to be had on this? We're doing summer planning now and I'd love to know if my kid has school requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:Bit of advice. Stop talking about MAP scores. You'll sound silly. They are irrelevant in the magnet. Many kids have MAP above 300 and there's no correlation between MAP and the classes they take and how they do or whether they are a star on the math team or would never touch math team with a 10 foot pole.

Interesting. I have 3 kids and have followed their map scores for years. If found them to be pretty reflective of their math skills.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do they decide who goes to Functions? How DC is currently in H Geometry but their MAP was 315+

If your child is in TPMS the teacher will make the recommendation. Otherwise they will evaluate during factoring camp at the beginning of the summer. Even if your child is not recommended they can ask to be put in Functions or if they are put in Functions they can ask to not be in it.

There is some flexibility the first few weeks. One of DC's friends asked not to be in Functions on the first day even though they were recommended for it and later a high number of other classmates dropped out during the trial period. If you don't hit a certain grade on the assessments by a certain time you are automatically dropped. You don't have a choice at that point.