Once the Proud Boys beat up people in midtown Manhattan and and Trump pardons them, you will know democracy is dead. Personally, I hope some of the Proud Boys get beaten up.

They literally published Project 2025 and told people what they were going to do, and voters still voted for them.

Well it is a bit rich that the left now hates jews and also hitler??

Anonymous wrote:History is replete with interesting characters and stories, many of which have modern day parallels. Liberals are supposedly super educated and should know of these.

So please, please, please try using other historical analogies now and then. Its really tedious.

Oh, are you bored by fascism references?

The problem with that is MAGA doesn’t recognize any of those names. And there’s nothing inaccurate about the parallels to Hitler in the 1930s. Of course, MAGA doesn’t know about that either which is why they still don’t get it. And also, many of them are fine with fascism.

You’re insufferable to complain about this. And you’ve bought into the propaganda of holding liberals to a ridiculous standard of perfection.

Anonymous wrote:History is replete with interesting characters and stories, many of which have modern day parallels. Liberals are supposedly super educated and should know of these.

So please, please, please try using other historical analogies now and then. Its really tedious.

OK. How about Caligula?

History is replete with interesting characters and stories, many of which have modern day parallels. Liberals are supposedly super educated and should know of these.

So please, please, please try using other historical analogies now and then. Its really tedious.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone you equate hitler yo Trump you minimize what actually happened to 12M people. Shame on you. You are a sick, disgusting person.

Trump is more like a stupid Mussolini. It’s the people he surrounds himself with who are dangerous. But there won’t be any gas chambers so Hitler is not a great example.

Was there democracy in post First World War Germany? Where was this democracy?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m so old I remember when Reagan was Hitler. And Bush. And Bush Jr. And McCain. And Romney. And Trump the first time around. But this time, surely, that’s the end of us!

I would say it’s tiresome, but really, it’s mostly just funny to watch the same hysterics every few years. [/quote]

None of those (besides Trump):

Said they were okay with terminating the Constitution.

Called an election fraudulent and attempted to overthrow it both politically and by inciting violence.

Tried to get state officials to find them more votes.

Said that if they were elected voters would never have to vote again.

Had a Supreme Court decision putting the President above the law.

Trump was a threat to democracy his first term, he was just too inept to break through all the guard rails, but he managed to tear down enough to clear the way this term. Our democracy has held because of checks and balances, but there’s not much left to check his power. The other two branches of government shirked their responsibilities in favor of self-interest and then voters returned him to power (along with his MAGA supporters in Congress). That leaves us with a bureaucracy that he is dismantling, a polarized media that is so biased on both sides that it has lost most of the trust it once had, and a military whose leadership he is trying to replace with loyalists, putting into question whether they would defy illegal orders from their Commander-in-Chief in defense of their oath to the Constitution - and military coups aren’t typically known for restoring democracy.

I fervently hope that I am wrong and my fears turn out to be needless paranoia. I would be thrilled if time proves me wrong. But portraying fears about this particular president as “business as usual” is deliberately misleading. Trump’s own words and deeds have laid the basis for suspicion. It may be traditional for liberals to accuse conservatives of being fascists (and conservatives to accuse liberals of being communists), but with Trump you have many conservatives (including myself) saying that this man represents a threat to democracy.

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Very well stated.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone you equate hitler yo Trump you minimize what actually happened to 12M people. Shame on you. You are a sick, disgusting person.

And, you an idiot because Trump is about as close to Hitler as this country has ever seen. He wants to murder everyone who doesn't worship him.

Has Trump imprisoned legislators?

Other presidents have.

Has Trump suspended haebeas corpus?

Other presidents have?

Has Trump thrown citizens into internment camps?

Other presidents have.

Sounds like other presidents have been closer to Hitler.

Please provide examples in site your sources

Did you fail US AP history?

Lincoln suspended haebus corpus and imprisoned members of the MD legislature, councilmen, mayors, and other elected officals. (https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/abraham-lincoln-crushes-civil-liberties-in-maryland/#:~:text=%5B34%5D%20In%20April%2C%20Lincoln,no%20vote%20would%20be%20allowed.)

FDR imprisoned not only Japanese US citizens in internment camps, but Italians as well. I mean, the US even paid reparations over this stuff.

I mean, I know its always day zero with you guys, but to deny common HS level knowledge just makes you leftists a total and utter joke. The american educational system totally failed you.

There's ton's to criticize Trump on, but he hasn't done any of this stuff yet.

I wasn't aware that another Civil War has already started (and that it wasn't even safe to call Congress into session to authorize suspension of habeas corpus, which it did do later) or that the United States has declared war on any other countries. It took Hitler 6 years to start killing the disabled. We're only 3 days in.

Physicians working for the federal government and whose jobs included a small slice of DEI work have already been placed on administrative leave. A regular conference call on H5N1 was cancelled yesterday. Two orphaned children from Burma set to join their relatives in the US had their flights cancelled.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so old I remember when Reagan was Hitler. And Bush. And Bush Jr. And McCain. And Romney. And Trump the first time around. But this time, surely, that’s the end of us!

I would say it’s tiresome, but really, it’s mostly just funny to watch the same hysterics every few years.

Reagan, the Bushs, Romney and McCain all had integrity. Trump has shown the world that he has zero integrity. The hysteria surrounding Trump's 2nd term may be overdone but hysteria is what you get when the leader of the free world has zero integrity.

you think they had integrity?

No more than any democratic policticain

You probably still belive in Santa Claus and the easter bunny

If the American VP was being chased to the basement of the US Capitol Building by a mob of hundreds chanting hang the American VP, you damn well better believe that every POTUS that has come before or after Trump would immediately answer pleas for help. Many of our former presidents would insist on venturing the 1.25 miles from The White House to The Capitol to join the fight against the attackers themselves. FAFO what true patriots with INTEGRITY are made of.

How much do you know about former presidents?

Read your history... your illusions will be shattered.

Let's listen to the words of our second president

"a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."In an attack ad, Adams said if Jefferson is elected president, "murder, robbery, rape, adultery, and incest will be openly taught and practiced, the air will be rent with the cries of the distressed, the soil will be soaked with blood and the nation black with crimes."

Don't ever look into Andrew Jackson, nor LBJ

Adams and Jefferson were loyal to each other as Americans first and foremost and that loyalty was apparent until the day they died.

I promise you an angry mob attacking a Federal Building when Andrew Jackson was President would have ended up a very sad and mostly dead mob. All presidents since GW have shown some degree of sleaze and political corruption but Trump's the only president to ever go AWOL during an attack on our government and country.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so old I remember when Reagan was Hitler. And Bush. And Bush Jr. And McCain. And Romney. And Trump the first time around. But this time, surely, that’s the end of us!

I would say it’s tiresome, but really, it’s mostly just funny to watch the same hysterics every few years.

Reagan, the Bushs, Romney and McCain all had integrity. Trump has shown the world that he has zero integrity. The hysteria surrounding Trump's 2nd term may be overdone but hysteria is what you get when the leader of the free world has zero integrity.

Then maybe the “Free World” needs a new leader. Who said it had to be the U.S.? Who said that Congress was the only way to check people?

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But [b]when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security[/b

We've owned the title "leader of the free world" since we sacrificed thousands of 17 to 20 year old brave souls along with many others to storm beaches in France and islands in the Pacific to rescue the world from tyranny and destruction. Never forget. You're spitting on graves of those brave souls when you disrespect out standing in the world.

Never forget.

PP is not the one spitting. DJT is.

PP questioned our role as leader of the free world. That role wasn't assigned; it was earned during a brutal world conflict and our sorry, selfish and spoiled arses continue to take the sacrifices of that generation for granted.

Leadership is earned everyday.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so old I remember when Reagan was Hitler. And Bush. And Bush Jr. And McCain. And Romney. And Trump the first time around. But this time, surely, that’s the end of us!

I would say it’s tiresome, but really, it’s mostly just funny to watch the same hysterics every few years.

Reagan, the Bushs, Romney and McCain all had integrity. Trump has shown the world that he has zero integrity. The hysteria surrounding Trump's 2nd term may be overdone but hysteria is what you get when the leader of the free world has zero integrity.

Then maybe the “Free World” needs a new leader. Who said it had to be the U.S.? Who said that Congress was the only way to check people?

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But [b]when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security[/b

We've owned the title "leader of the free world" since we sacrificed thousands of 17 to 20 year old brave souls along with many others to storm beaches in France and islands in the Pacific to rescue the world from tyranny and destruction. Never forget. You're spitting on graves of those brave souls when you disrespect out standing in the world.

Never forget.

Gaining it then and being entitled to it now are very different things. And if the U.S. can no longer honor their sacrificed Leigh reverence, prudence and a commitment to doing better, then the greater honor would be to acknowledge this and allow someone else who can to lead until such time that the US can find its soul again.

We've lacked leadership for 8 years with two lousy elderly presidents. We haven't lost our soul.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so old I remember when Reagan was Hitler. And Bush. And Bush Jr. And McCain. And Romney. And Trump the first time around. But this time, surely, that’s the end of us!

I would say it’s tiresome, but really, it’s mostly just funny to watch the same hysterics every few years.

Reagan, the Bushs, Romney and McCain all had integrity. Trump has shown the world that he has zero integrity. The hysteria surrounding Trump's 2nd term may be overdone but hysteria is what you get when the leader of the free world has zero integrity.

Then maybe the “Free World” needs a new leader. Who said it had to be the U.S.? Who said that Congress was the only way to check people?

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But [b]when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security[/b

We've owned the title "leader of the free world" since we sacrificed thousands of 17 to 20 year old brave souls along with many others to storm beaches in France and islands in the Pacific to rescue the world from tyranny and destruction. Never forget. You're spitting on graves of those brave souls when you disrespect out standing in the world.

Never forget.

Gaining it then and being entitled to it now are very different things. And if the U.S. can no longer honor their sacrificed Leigh reverence, prudence and a commitment to doing better, then the greater honor would be to acknowledge this and allow someone else who can to lead until such time that the US can find its soul again.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so old I remember when Reagan was Hitler. And Bush. And Bush Jr. And McCain. And Romney. And Trump the first time around. But this time, surely, that’s the end of us!

I would say it’s tiresome, but really, it’s mostly just funny to watch the same hysterics every few years.

Reagan, the Bushs, Romney and McCain all had integrity. Trump has shown the world that he has zero integrity. The hysteria surrounding Trump's 2nd term may be overdone but hysteria is what you get when the leader of the free world has zero integrity.

Then maybe the “Free World” needs a new leader. Who said it had to be the U.S.? Who said that Congress was the only way to check people?

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But [b]when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security[/b

We've owned the title "leader of the free world" since we sacrificed thousands of 17 to 20 year old brave souls along with many others to storm beaches in France and islands in the Pacific to rescue the world from tyranny and destruction. Never forget. You're spitting on graves of those brave souls when you disrespect out standing in the world.

Never forget.

PP is not the one spitting. DJT is.

PP questioned our role as leader of the free world. That role wasn't assigned; it was earned during a brutal world conflict and our sorry, selfish and spoiled arses continue to take the sacrifices of that generation for granted.