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Anonymous wrote:Diamond will never really be "done", but honestly I'm never paying top market for a stone when moissanite is just as nice and can be in a setting equally as beautiful. Just like clothing is more about fit than fabric - jewelry is more about setting.

This is the opposite of what I think.

Fabric and fit are important in clothing.

The stone is more important than the setting for a jewel.

Nope, I agree with the first PP. The vast majority of people will not be able to tell the quality of your stone. They will, however, see a beautiful setting and assume you spent a lot of money on the ring as a whole. Buy lab diamonds, OP, nobody will know. Anyone who says they can tell is a big fat liar.

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Does gold jewelry, especially brand name (Cartier, Tiffany) hold their value? Like you can resell for at least 50% if you use sites like the RealReal?

No, if it’s not a brand name and doesn’t have any artistic value.

With brand names, it’s tricky. Some items do really well on the resale sites, but those are the ones that fall into the narrow band of being desirable and recognizable enough that people know it’s e g Tiffany, but not so ubiquitous that there are tons of fakes and dupes around that are worn by “wrong” demographics. I don’t think you can predict where on that range your item will end in 10-20 years.

Diamonds aren't worth much anyway, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:My engagement diamond has big visible inclusions because my DH didn’t notice, so I figure now they’re special marks of earth.

And hopefully not human suffering, I guess?

OMG
Mine too
I figured I was the only one with an unobservant DH.

Lol yeah and I am not going to be the one to tell him.

I have no idea if he got a bad price or if they didn’t point them out to him but I’m pretty sure he didn’t/doesn’t know. It’s clearly visible to the naked eye. I don’t care and I’ll just take it to the grave, lol.

I hate diamonds. Expensive and over rated

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Lab diamonds are not the problem. When people in their 90s, 80s, 70s... die, there will be tons of diamonds floating around.

There are literally tons of diamonds. They are the most common gem stone and had no values till they were marketed. There is an endless supply of natural diamonds.

I'm in my mid 40s but my nieces, nephews, etc who have gotten engaged in the last five years have all bought lab diamonds.

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Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

It's very easy for an experienced gemologist to say and they can even identify the growing method of the lab diamond. There's also a tool that one can buy to test for lab vs natural but it's expensive.

No, a typical gemologist doesn't have the specialized (and very expensive) equipment necessary to tell the difference. They can only look for inscriptions claiming one way or another.

Wrong. More jewelers have the tool used to id labs. Not all labs have inscriptions. Think about it. Labs are made all over the world now and particularly in the 3rd world. Who is going around forcing facilities to inscribe lab diamonds?

No one. But if you don't have a spectrometer, you're not going to be able to reliably tell the difference between a lab-grown diamond and a high-quality mined diamond. You might be able to guess, but not with consistent accuracy. If there aren't inscriptions, a regular jeweler won't be able to identify a lab-grown diamond.

No the spectrometer will not detect lab grown that are made to order. There are plants in china that grow thousands of gem stone quality diamonds to match spectrometer and gas intrusions(bubbles) to natural diamonds for various mines. People have done the numbers. Somehow 75% of lab grown are just disappearing in India.

There is a huge incentive to switch out labs for natural in the supply chain. Let’s say you have 100 2 cart diamonds. Whole sale lab grown diamonds are 85-90% of the cost and falling quickly. Switch out 10 diamonds and you can make some nice money. The documentation is easily forged. IGI and GIA are just agreements.

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Anonymous wrote:I will only buy mined diamonds. I just can’t get behind a lab diamond. Fake is fake. My diamond jewelry is for me, and to be passed down to my kids if they want it. I don’t view it as an investment and the resale value doesn’t matter to me

Lab diamonds are in no way fake.

Stupid is stupid.

They come from second-tier carbon atoms.

Anonymous wrote:Smart women don't wear diamonds.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted on here.

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Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

It's very easy for an experienced gemologist to say and they can even identify the growing method of the lab diamond. There's also a tool that one can buy to test for lab vs natural but it's expensive.

No, a typical gemologist doesn't have the specialized (and very expensive) equipment necessary to tell the difference. They can only look for inscriptions claiming one way or another.

Wrong. More jewelers have the tool used to id labs. Not all labs have inscriptions. Think about it. Labs are made all over the world now and particularly in the 3rd world. Who is going around forcing facilities to inscribe lab diamonds?

No one. But if you don't have a spectrometer, you're not going to be able to reliably tell the difference between a lab-grown diamond and a high-quality mined diamond. You might be able to guess, but not with consistent accuracy. If there aren't inscriptions, a regular jeweler won't be able to identify a lab-grown diamond.

Anonymous wrote:Smart women don't wear diamonds.

What do they wear, pray tell?

Anonymous wrote:DAng it, if emeralds are now off the table, what is a May birthday supposed to wear? (I know, first world problem. But I literally bought an emerald yesterday not knowing this.)

Green tsavorite or sapphires.

NP
Does gold jewelry, especially brand name (Cartier, Tiffany) hold their value? Like you can resell for at least 50% if you use sites like the RealReal?