Anonymous wrote:What did anti-RTO people do before the pandemic?

A lot of us were in different jobs. The pandemic started 5 years ago, careers and home lives change a lot in that time. My spouse has changed jobs once and I have twice to further our careers.

My spouse's job is in person, in a different city than mine, which was advertised and hired as fully remote. I.e. when I took the job, it was clearly written that I'd be working from my city. There is no way we could or would have made this very specific set of interrelated decisions before the pandemic.

Yes I understand that private companies relocate people as well. It's generally understood to be hard on people and worthy if sympathy, not "suck it up you spoiled brat!"

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Anonymous wrote:What did anti-RTO people do before the pandemic?

I only took jobs within areas where I could handle the commute. But I'm in a fully remote job now, and the location where we would RTO isn't a location where I ever would have accepted a job.

Also, I worked my 8 hours and I went home. I work a lot more and my career has grown, and I'm not giving that up.

It’s not your call. Why not find another job if they force you to? The system will continue to move with or without any of us.

It actually will be hurt if there are significant numbers of quits. I don't think that will happen, but federal employees by and large do things that are Congressionally mandated. Often they are congressionally mandated programs serving citizens, who will no longer be served.

Yes, that maybe but the system will still move forward. Do you really think the new team cares about that? It’s all about evening news and headcount.

There's like 1 or 2 people on every single one of these threads that just constantly makes up stuff about federal employees and federal employment and how the federal government works. I want to believe this is some troll farm action, otherwise what's their purpose.

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Anonymous wrote:What did anti-RTO people do before the pandemic?

I only took jobs within areas where I could handle the commute. But I'm in a fully remote job now, and the location where we would RTO isn't a location where I ever would have accepted a job.

Also, I worked my 8 hours and I went home. I work a lot more and my career has grown, and I'm not giving that up.

It’s not your call. Why not find another job if they force you to? The system will continue to move with or without any of us.

It actually will be hurt if there are significant numbers of quits. I don't think that will happen, but federal employees by and large do things that are Congressionally mandated. Often they are congressionally mandated programs serving citizens, who will no longer be served.

Anonymous wrote:What did anti-RTO people do before the pandemic?

I teleworked 50% of the time. I'm doing that now.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people get worked up over this BEFORE a decision is made? If you worked in the office pre-Covid, are you surprised you may be asked to RTO?

A lot has changed. Technology, culture. My job for one. I am new fed and took this job a year ago so I could flex my time in and out so the office. I did it think I’d have a one hour commute each way everyday, have to pay for after care, dry cleaning, gas and so on . . .

Dry cleaning? These are Feds, you can wear wash and wear clothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll go back. I'll be much more of a clock watcher, though.

However, we are 50% in the office, as we don't have space for everyone. Where will they put us?

We have had dozens of posts of “but no space” — they don’t care. You need to badge in and find a corner of floor. They do not care about productivity, enough bathrooms, HVAC, comfort or anything. They want you in and miserable so you will quit.

So stop with that line of concern.

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But I suggest people keep calling the fire marshall every day about these violations.

They keep packing students into classrooms at school. We don’t have any limits apparently.

Anonymous wrote:How many actual hours of work do you do at homework week?

Personally I do put in a lot of hours maybe because I am a manager (Office Director level). Pretty sure my staff don’t put in full 40 thou.

How many actual hours of work do you do at homework week?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the higher earner in my household, so I will go back. I already bought a parking pass just in case. It will cost us plenty in driving/parking but the big impact is to my non-fed DH, who will need to limit himself to remote roles so he can handle the to/from school situation. Right now we split it because we each work hybrid.

Oh my gosh. This is us exactly. The parking is insanely expensive. Guess DC mayor is happy I am propping up her economy. It makes me sad, but I’d go in 5 days a week. I’ll use vacation up like mad dealing with childcare over the summer. Morale in toilet. It will be hard.

Trump wants people like you to quit. RTO is the easiest way.

Both PPs have said they won't quit, though.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the higher earner in my household, so I will go back. I already bought a parking pass just in case. It will cost us plenty in driving/parking but the big impact is to my non-fed DH, who will need to limit himself to remote roles so he can handle the to/from school situation. Right now we split it because we each work hybrid.

Oh my gosh. This is us exactly. The parking is insanely expensive. Guess DC mayor is happy I am propping up her economy. It makes me sad, but I’d go in 5 days a week. I’ll use vacation up like mad dealing with childcare over the summer. Morale in toilet. It will be hard.

Trump wants people like you to quit. RTO is the easiest way.

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Anonymous wrote:What did anti-RTO people do before the pandemic?

I only took jobs within areas where I could handle the commute. But I'm in a fully remote job now, and the location where we would RTO isn't a location where I ever would have accepted a job.

Also, I worked my 8 hours and I went home. I work a lot more and my career has grown, and I'm not giving that up.

It’s not your call. Why not find another job if they force you to? The system will continue to move with or without any of us.

Anonymous wrote:What did anti-RTO people do before the pandemic?

I only took jobs within areas where I could handle the commute. But I'm in a fully remote job now, and the location where we would RTO isn't a location where I ever would have accepted a job.

Also, I worked my 8 hours and I went home. I work a lot more and my career has grown, and I'm not giving that up.

Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of EOs coming out this week

Will those EOs be coming out of Mar a Lago or the White House?

What did anti-RTO people do before the pandemic?