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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how both are “within reach“ for a kid who is barely through half of high school, especially when talking about two of the most selective colleges in the country?

He got a 1560 on the October SAT and likely National Merit Finalist and more than 2/3rd of his GPA is locked for ED/REA. And these are two pretty popular schools from his high school so naviance has pretty good data.

I get that you're trying to snark at me, but I'll reply in good faith. This was a big lesson from my first. Things shape up earlier than you think. Either you have the GPA on track and also have that state championship (in sport or debate or olympiad medal) or deep interest by now, or you don't. You can still make some things happen, but it's a limited time frame and scrambling in junior year sucks Protecting that GPA in 9th grade is big. So many kids chalk up a lot of Bs during "adjustment" to high school and look back at that like, why didn't I just study? also, getting into a competitive summer program or internship after 10th grade is easier than after 11th and bulks things up. And it's make sense to study for SAT in August before Junior year so you can do well on PSAT and just generally have it done.

Anyway, those two schools are within reach.

What is class rank? As someone who has been looking for every data point possible for Georgetown, it looks like top 5% is absolutely necessary without a hook. You may not be one of them, but I wish I had a penny for every parent who thinks a 1560 is going to save a GPA that is not truly at the very top and with tons of rigor. I've seen it time and time again

It's a private school that doesn't rank. It also has 20+ admits a year, far more than top 5% so I suspect this is a lot about what GU thinks of your high school. Georgetown is one of those schools that has a straight line for GPA (from our school anyway) and he's over it with a lot of room. Williams is a harder call - their naviance is a bit all over the map. But they have a "type" - judging from the kids who have gotten in the past from our school - and I think my kid matches that type.

That's what the schools tell you to avoid the question but your high school counselor knows and most likely your own kid knows. It's the girst thing readers for colleges assess by using the school profile and figuring out your kid's rank through GPA, no of AP courses taken, which AP courses, tescher's comments, etc. Takes a two minutes at most.

This is going to make your head explode: it's a private school that doesn't rank, that doesn't weigh any grades, and offers no AP courses. No kid has a 4.0 and yet, 20% of the class gets into HYPSM. Also, kids with 3.8 GPA get into Georgetown about 80% of the time.

I'm not saying I don't have information. I have a plenty. I'm saying the school doesn't rank.

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Anonymous wrote:Has he considered Bucknell? It offers the best of both: a strong liberal arts core with a top philosophy department, and a pipeline to a high-paying finance job. You can't swing a cat on The Street without hitting a Bucknell grad, and they love to help other Bucknellians start their careers. It's one of the most fiercely loyal alumni networks of any school in the country.

Is it possible to swing a cat and knock down the rabid Bucknell booster so we don’t have to see this nonsense on a daily basis? Asking for a friend…

I love it! It makes me smile every time

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Anonymous wrote:Has he considered Bucknell? It offers the best of both: a strong liberal arts core with a top philosophy department, and a pipeline to a high-paying finance job. You can't swing a cat on The Street without hitting a Bucknell grad, and they love to help other Bucknellians start their careers. It's one of the most fiercely loyal alumni networks of any school in the country.

Is it possible to swing a cat and knock down the rabid Bucknell booster so we don’t have to see this nonsense on a daily basis? Asking for a friend…

Anonymous wrote:this must be a troll account- no one in their right mind would choose Georgetown over Williams - Williams is a peer of HYPSM, Georgetown is a peer of UVA - bleh

Anonymous wrote:Every school ranks — it’s required for entry to the service academies. Some just don’t publicize it. Please don’t let your head explode.

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Anonymous wrote:You should try to get good data on placement of Georgetown kids that aren't in the business program.

Williams has good placement and you know you aren't competing against kids with Finance or Accounting or other practical majors.

Well, 20% of Williams students have a first major in Econ; this does not even include double majors. Moreover, athletes are more likely to major in Econ than NARPs. https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Williams&s=all&id=168342#programs

That's fine...but Econ doesn't provide any practical skills for a job in finance...it is a quantitative major which is always good.

Anonymous wrote:Williams you get in because you are an above average athlete who is above average academically.

Georgetown you get in because you are excellent academically.

Anonymous wrote:I had the same decision several decades ago. I picked Williams but it really is about the fit. They offer different things academically and socially.

Anonymous wrote:Williams you get in because you are an above average athlete who is above average academically.

Georgetown you get in because you are excellent academically.

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Anonymous wrote:don't think CMC was on this very short list of A vs B

Weclome to DCUM. If another school isn't discussed, you'd be in the wrong place.

Anonymous wrote:OP:Visit both Georgetown & Williams and the decision should be easy as these schools are quite different.

Anonymous wrote:this must be a troll account- no one in their right mind would choose Georgetown over Williams - Williams is a peer of HYPSM, Georgetown is a peer of UVA - bleh