Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:23     Subject: Re:Matt Gaetz is out

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I wonder how KM will look when it's announced that MG is the new Senator in FL ...


DeSantis wants that for himself. He will not put Gaetz in that seat.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:23     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous wrote:LOL is this 5D chess?

Gaetz gave up a shoo-in House seat and now ends up with nothing.


He'll go for Rubio's seat.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:21     Subject: Re:Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous wrote:


I wonder how KM will look when it's announced that MG is the new Senator in FL ...
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:19     Subject: Re:Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:16     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

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Anonymous wrote:I think he would be nominated to macro Rubio's seat.


He WILL BE nominated to Rubio's seat ... no doubt about it. I think the AG was a hail mary ploy, knowing very well it had a low probability of occurring. Yesterday's meetings were mere confirmation from the Senate GOP that his lack of experience would doom him more than some tantalizing report about sex with minors and drug-fueled parties (because let's face it, the MAGA world, including the head of MAGA doesn't give two shits about it). Given that his qualifications were in question, he backs down, knowing that FL will need a Senate filler and guess what folks, you've now moved him from the lower chamber to the upper chamber. Who's coming out on top here??? Certainly not the Dems! (Or bullshit CNN media personalities who can't figure out a power play. That's the problem with the left--y'all are not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to a game of chess.)


Emotion over logic clouds the brain. They lack any critical thinking skills. Trump could appoint Eric Holder to the AG and these clowns would cry from the roof tops.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:15     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was never getting in - it was a plot to force him to resign - clearly.

Actually this is very weird…I’m assuming he was forced to step down by team Trump once the extent of his crimes were revealed.


I agree with this. He didn’t make any sense for AG, and I wonder what was going on behind the scenes. I had a feeling something like this would happen but you never can tell.

Basically, a ploy to get him out of the way. Now the congressional records can be released and he will disappear.


No, they're not going to release the congressional ethics report. The Republicans have no reason to, and it would contradict their rationale for withholding it.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:14     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was never getting in - it was a plot to force him to resign - clearly.

Actually this is very weird…I’m assuming he was forced to step down by team Trump once the extent of his crimes were revealed.


I agree with this. He didn’t make any sense for AG, and I wonder what was going on behind the scenes. I had a feeling something like this would happen but you never can tell.

Basically, a ploy to get him out of the way. Now the congressional records can be released and he will disappear.


+1 It was his punishment for the McCarthy BS. Everyone wanted him out. This was never going to come to fruition.


It was not that deep.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:14     Subject: Re:Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:13     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous wrote:I think he would be nominated to macro Rubio's seat.


He WILL BE nominated to Rubio's seat ... no doubt about it. I think the AG was a hail mary ploy, knowing very well it had a low probability of occurring. Yesterday's meetings were mere confirmation from the Senate GOP that his lack of experience would doom him more than some tantalizing report about sex with minors and drug-fueled parties (because let's face it, the MAGA world, including the head of MAGA doesn't give two shits about it). Given that his qualifications were in question, he backs down, knowing that FL will need a Senate filler and guess what folks, you've now moved him from the lower chamber to the upper chamber. Who's coming out on top here??? Certainly not the Dems! (Or bullshit CNN media personalities who can't figure out a power play. That's the problem with the left--y'all are not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to a game of chess.)
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:09     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

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Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness. Trump voter here. Spouse was law school classmates with this buffoon. He should have nothing to do with the rule of law in this country.


Spare us your faux outrage. You voted for a convicted felon who was also convicted of sexual abuse. You are as despicable as trump and Gaetz!


Trump is neither a convicted felon nor convicted of sexual abuse.


He is awaiting sentencing in New York. Guess you forgot.


He was found liable of rape. He was not convicted of it.

He's an awful, stupid human being but that's not a crime.

-Harris voter


In New York, he was found guilty of falsifying business records, aka fraud. His sentencing hearing was delayed and now prosecutors are open to delaying sentencing until after his presidential term is ended.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/19/politics/donald-trump-new-york-hush-money/index.html


Found guilty is not a conviction. There has been no conviction entered.


False. He has not been sentenced yet but "conviction" just means "finding of guilt." He was found guilty, he has been convicted. The only way to undo that is for the conviction to be overturned on appeal. Sentencing is a separate proceeding and does not impact conviction.

He could also be pardoned and that would remove the "convicted felon" label but in the present day he is a convicted felon.


That is not true.


It is true. You are twisting legal technicalities to get to the conclusion you desire (that Trump is not a convicted felon) because of some technical rules about when a person convicted of a crime may begin the appeals process. But this is a bad faith argument, arguing backwards from a preferred conclusion.

Trump has been convicted of felonies. He is a convicted felon. If you want to caveat that with "but he has not yet been sentenced and his conviction is not fully entered as a judgment until sentencing occurs," fine -- more info is good. But you cannot argue whether or not he is a convicted felon. He was convicted of a felony. Words have meanings and that's what those words mean.

Also, I beg of you, stop getting legal knowledge from Reddit or like solo legal practioners using MAGA click bait to boost their score in Google algorithms.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:08     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was never getting in - it was a plot to force him to resign - clearly.

Actually this is very weird…I’m assuming he was forced to step down by team Trump once the extent of his crimes were revealed.


I agree with this. He didn’t make any sense for AG, and I wonder what was going on behind the scenes. I had a feeling something like this would happen but you never can tell.

Basically, a ploy to get him out of the way. Now the congressional records can be released and he will disappear.


+1 It was his punishment for the McCarthy BS. Everyone wanted him out. This was never going to come to fruition.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 14:01     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

I think he would be nominated to macro Rubio's seat.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 13:59     Subject: Re:Matt Gaetz is out

Reason: His nomination got too old.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 13:59     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness. Trump voter here. Spouse was law school classmates with this buffoon. He should have nothing to do with the rule of law in this country.

But you voted for Trump? LOL!
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 13:53     Subject: Matt Gaetz is out

Vivek Ramaswamy as AG?