Anonymous
11/17/2024 14:16
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
What happened to all the people who lived the thousands and thousands of years before Jesus? Your speech above is crazy.
Former Catholic, here. I don't remember it ever coming up in church what happened to people who died before Jesus came around. We just never thought about them.
I was raised Catholic — I am still a Christian but not a Catholic anymore. I agree with this comment — I never remember a single Catholic priest ever addressing this extremely basic question.
The Christian answer is that people in the Old Testament were saved the same way that people in the New Testament were — through faith in God. It’s not really that complicated but the Catholic Church does a good job of not even explaining the basics to its members.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 14:03
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
The bible does not explicitly say, but I do know that God is absolutely just and righteous.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
What happened to all the people who lived the thousands and thousands of years before Jesus? Your speech above is crazy.
It says in the bible we are given a conscience, so that we know without even hearing or reading the law we instinctively understand that murder is wrong. It also says “God winked” at their sins in past times because they were ignorant.
It may be God will judge those people according to their conscience, or he may have sent Jesus to those who had died prior to give them a chance. I do not know other than God will be 100% just about it.
We do know that the people in Noah’s time were utterly evil, so much so God wiped them all out. Even had Jesus appeared then, they would have rejected him, just as they rejected Methusaleh and Noah who for 120 years preached to them to repent.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 13:58
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Why do atheists come here? Maybe to play.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 13:57
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I want to talk with similarly-minded people and I want religious people to think more about their beliefs.
I wish I had known about this forum when I was first questioning religion. It would have been very helpful to know that there are seemingly intelligent, good-humored and logical people who have rejected religion.
This is one of the few places that I feel free to discuss atheism. Being religious is the default position in the US, even though recent studies indicate that fewer people these days are religious.
Atheism is a religion too, they are as protective of their beliefs as any other religion and more skeptic of authenticity of other religions as any other religion.
This is 100 percent right. Just look at the comments on this thread. Name-calling, open condescension, contempt, intolerance, a lack of basic respect and civility — and it’s not from the “religious” posters.
Really? The religious ones are sending us to a lake of fire for eternity. That's pretty aggressive.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 13:33
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Humans need to focus on interfaith and interracial efforts to avoid inbreeding or worse extinction.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 13:29
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I want to talk with similarly-minded people and I want religious people to think more about their beliefs.
I wish I had known about this forum when I was first questioning religion. It would have been very helpful to know that there are seemingly intelligent, good-humored and logical people who have rejected religion.
This is one of the few places that I feel free to discuss atheism. Being religious is the default position in the US, even though recent studies indicate that fewer people these days are religious.
Atheism is a religion too, they are as protective of their beliefs as any other religion and more skeptic of authenticity of other religions as any other religion.
This is 100 percent right. Just look at the comments on this thread. Name-calling, open condescension, contempt, intolerance, a lack of basic respect and civility — and it’s not from the “religious” posters.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 13:28
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
I'm sorry if anyone finds it offensive but if there is a God, its the same one we all call by different names and think we are the real chosen ones. We can call it God, Allah, Baghwan or whatever but that doesn't make us more special than others. Sooner we accept it, better off we'll be. Live and let live, let people pray or not pray however they prefer.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 13:23
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:I want to talk with similarly-minded people and I want religious people to think more about their beliefs.
I wish I had known about this forum when I was first questioning religion. It would have been very helpful to know that there are seemingly intelligent, good-humored and logical people who have rejected religion.
This is one of the few places that I feel free to discuss atheism. Being religious is the default position in the US, even though recent studies indicate that fewer people these days are religious.
Atheism is a religion too, they are as protective of their beliefs as any other religion and more skeptic of authenticity of other religions as any other religion.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 13:19
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
What happened to all the people who lived the thousands and thousands of years before Jesus? Your speech above is crazy.
Former Catholic, here. I don't remember it ever coming up in church what happened to people who died before Jesus came around. We just never thought about them.
And you don't think that's odd? You don't think about genealogy or genetics? I'm descended from people of 6 or 7 different religions (or no religion) just in the past 200 years.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 11:41
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
What happened to all the people who lived the thousands and thousands of years before Jesus? Your speech above is crazy.
Former Catholic, here. I don't remember it ever coming up in church what happened to people who died before Jesus came around. We just never thought about them.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 11:06
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Atheist and religious people are pretty much the same.
A Christian believes in Jesus, but they don’t believe in Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, ….
Atheist also don’t believe in allah, Vishnu, Zeus…. They just also don’t believe in 1 more god, the Christian one.
When an atheist speaks about not believing in Jesus, or that Jesus is god, that their god exists…. It’s really no different than a Christian saying they don’t believe allah exists
The name people give their supernatural God is irrelevant. Atheists are saying that no supernatural God exists - that there is no supernatural sphere. It doesn't matter what name believers give their god.
Not meaning to be pedantic, but most atheists say there is no evidence for the supernatural and thus no reason to believe in one, as is the logical standard for anything other than a god presupposition.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 11:01
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
What happened to all the people who lived the thousands and thousands of years before Jesus? Your speech above is crazy.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 10:47
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Atheist and religious people are pretty much the same.
A Christian believes in Jesus, but they don’t believe in Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, ….
Atheist also don’t believe in allah, Vishnu, Zeus…. They just also don’t believe in 1 more god, the Christian one.
When an atheist speaks about not believing in Jesus, or that Jesus is god, that their god exists…. It’s really no different than a Christian saying they don’t believe allah exists
The name people give their supernatural God is irrelevant. Atheists are saying that no supernatural God exists - that there is no supernatural sphere. It doesn't matter what name believers give their god.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 09:59
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Actually, almost all civil cases are based on a standard of a preponderance of evidence which means 50.1. And, yes, after looking at all of the objective evidence, my belief in God absolutely exceeds that standard. It actually goes higher than that — but it is not 100 percent. I freely admit that. But it doesn’t need to be.
DP. I’m curious what you mean by “objective evidence”.
Anonymous
11/17/2024 09:56
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Atheist and religious people are pretty much the same.
A Christian believes in Jesus, but they don’t believe in Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, ….
Atheist also don’t believe in allah, Vishnu, Zeus…. They just also don’t believe in 1 more god, the Christian one.
When an atheist speaks about not believing in Jesus, or that Jesus is god, that their god exists…. It’s really no different than a Christian saying they don’t believe allah exists
No, one group thinks that supernatural forces are real. The other doesn’t.