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Anonymous wrote:Invoking a rarely used law from 1798 that has to do with countries at war with each other is clearly an attempt to bypass the existing judicial process because the administration knew that they were in the wrong legally using modern protocols and precedent.

That they are using this with gang members is a test case for exactly the response we see here. "Oh, they're just gang members." Not a far stretch to see that they could begin to deport other foreign "undesirables" at will.

This is a slippery slope that makes me very worried.

There is no “deport.”

It does not exist.

Anonymous wrote:This will be advertised as crazy activist judges and Dems that support gang members…

Anonymous wrote:Invoking a rarely used law from 1798 that has to do with countries at war with each other is clearly an attempt to bypass the existing judicial process because the administration knew that they were in the wrong legally using modern protocols and precedent.

That they are using this with gang members is a test case for exactly the response we see here. "Oh, they're just gang members." Not a far stretch to see that they could begin to deport other foreign "undesirables" at will.

This is a slippery slope that makes me very worried.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, anyone here whose family came over from Europe after wwII knows exactly what’s going on here.

Come on republicans—I know you don’t want to live like this. Speak up. We can deal with illegal immigration without disappearing people.

Republicans can. Democrats just let more illegals in.

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Anonymous wrote:So the government's argument is that they can declare that ANYONE is a Venezuelan gang member and then they can put them on a plane to El Salvador. No due process, do not pass GO, do not collect $100.

Most international "vetting" processes are specious at best. No, our government isn't going to be able to adequately vet or litigate people from other countries in many cases. The problems are manifold. It depends on our ability to extract information from their governments. Do their governments actually have accurate records, are we on good terms with their government. In Venezuela, it's pretty clear that no we aren't on good terms.

Anonymous wrote:When the Dems have lost Mark Penn…

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Flying Court Orders

I find it hard to believe that a district judge believed he is empowered to overrule the defense department and homeland security on matters related to national security on a preliminary basis with planes in the air.

These were migrants here illegally believed to be members of the most dangerous gangs being sent to their home countries where they could be properly adjudicated.

He could well have halted future flights or asked the DOJ to request the home countries to hold these migrants but ordering defense department flights in mid air in international airspace is incredible chutzpah that implies powers to mere district judges beyond anything that is reasonable. And it is rewarding forum shopping in the extreme. Find a judge anywhere in the US and they now have even international authority with instant orders.

The higher courts have to rein in these district court judges whose district they claim is now the entire world and adopt orderly systems of adjudication of urgent matters that includes supervision of these judges and requires at least circuit court approval of orders that go beyond their districts.

A federal judge stopped DACA
A federal judge stopped Biden’s student loan relief
Federal judges stop things all the time and normal, law abiding administrations listen.

If the Trump admin wants to give these prisoners due process, find them to have broken the law, then by all means, deport. But we can’t have a country where the government just rounds up people and sends them to foreign prisons without due process.

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Flying Court Orders

I find it hard to believe that a district judge believed he is empowered to overrule the defense department and homeland security on matters related to national security on a preliminary basis with planes in the air.

These were migrants here illegally believed to be members of the most dangerous gangs being sent to their home countries where they could be properly adjudicated.

He could well have halted future flights or asked the DOJ to request the home countries to hold these migrants but ordering defense department flights in mid air in international airspace is incredible chutzpah that implies powers to mere district judges beyond anything that is reasonable. And it is rewarding forum shopping in the extreme. Find a judge anywhere in the US and they now have even international authority with instant orders.

The higher courts have to rein in these district court judges whose district they claim is now the entire world and adopt orderly systems of adjudication of urgent matters that includes supervision of these judges and requires at least circuit court approval of orders that go beyond their districts.

Anonymous wrote:Homan doesn't care what judges think . . . I think this judge needs to invite Homan to the federal courthouse, hold him in contempt and let him think about his asinine arrogance for sometime (until Homan adequately apologizes) in the courthouse holding cell.

Anonymous wrote:So the government's argument is that they can declare that ANYONE is a Venezuelan gang member and then they can put them on a plane to El Salvador. No due process, do not pass GO, do not collect $100.