Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 10:01     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
I think a lot of anger and hurt chose Trump. There were a lot of voters who stayed home because they couldn't decide between 2 idiots (like me) but they did not wanting to choose Trump per se.

I don't think it's about idiots choosing Trump as much as how devastating the current landscape of US is on so many fronts.

If you want to blame someone, blame the political party of the Democrats for not rising to the occasion - how hard is it to beat a convicted felon with no self control? I had higher expectations for these "smart" professionals, I have zero expectations for the regular Joe. People vote for what they think they need. It's not that people are dumb, it's that people are desperate for change and hope.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 10:01     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.


This +100


This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.


Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.


Yep. Exactly.


Whatever. I wrote the post you’re reacting to. No, I don’t go on Truth Social or Fairfax Underground or white nationalist spaces to tell racist sexists who would see me dead that they’re cruel. Sure, keep up with the posts about how everyone will FAFO and you’re just sooooo done and like don’t chide me okay?

I am in the exact position of another poster who said she’s Latina and she and everyone in her family voted for Harris. Exact same situation. It feels terrible to see some people posting gleeful things about how Latinos and others will get what they wanted. So many of us didn’t want this.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:59     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.


Republicans are the ones that drove their campaigns with identity politics. Just watch any of their commercials. Democrats talked about the economy and body autonomy. Enough with the gaslighting.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:55     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.


This +100


This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.


I'm not completely sure what you're trying to say - but I think this apathetic reaction is a coping mechanism. He's not even in office yet. I'm sure some people will resist (or whatever word you want to use) once he actually does something egregious. Praying it won't be as bad as he suggested during the campaign.


yes, it is a coping mechanism. We are UHNW (yes we really are). We will likely benefit financially in many ways. Yet We voted against this (like we normally do) because we will be fine without tax cuts and other perks, we would prefer society have all the other benefits that will now be taken away (or at least have been promised to be taken away). At this point, the only way to help is at the local level.

Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:50     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.


But that's OP's point - we aren't having meltdowns. We're over it.


+1 It's weird how many people I know and talk to are all in this same space. It must be some innate thing to our psychology for it to happen in this widespread way.

My friends and family who belong to more vulnerable groups are not in this mental space. And some other people I know - mostly online - are in the full on panic space, doing things like moving their money out of American banks in case Project 2025 takes away the FDIC and/or women's rights to hold their own accounts.

But most people I know, including myself, are not having meltdowns. We're tired and if you want to touch the stove, touch the stove.


This. I am no longer going to be the protector. You want to run with scissors, do it. I won't stop you.
Republicans are like a toddler wanting a knife, to touch the stove, to drink bleach, to jump off the roof.
Ok. have at it. I really don't care.
No hysteria that kids are jumping off houses. No worry about scissors in the eye. Do you man.


How do you feel about the public education system?


DP:

The R will get exactly what they want. Uneducated followers in most of the red states. It will only get worse.
I feel for those whose kids have disabilites---as that support is all federal. It will take states time to figure that out---and by and large, it will be the blue states that put disability protections into place...the red states will happily ignore those kids
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:48     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.


This +100


This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.


I'm not completely sure what you're trying to say - but I think this apathetic reaction is a coping mechanism. He's not even in office yet. I'm sure some people will resist (or whatever word you want to use) once he actually does something egregious. Praying it won't be as bad as he suggested during the campaign.


Ok.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:46     Subject: Re:My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op,

This is exactly how I feel.

"What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power."

I'm definitely NOT going to tune into his outrageous comments. He doesn't do most of what he says, and he accomplishes way less than he threatens to do.

In a way, the media (controlled by rich people) made Trump because they suppress his dementia-like behaviors while calling Biden too old and unhealthy. Trump is a master at controlling the press, who he threatens to shoot. They want the eyeballs and attention, and I won't be giving that to them this time.

I hear what others are saying about MAGA still being so angry, unhappy, depressed, and did I say angry? What will they be angry about now? Why aren't they dancing in the streets?

Why does no one seem to be celebrating??









Celebrate what? Most of them are about to get screwed over.


But they are too stupid to realize it. (Don't care if that is condescending---it's the truth. And apparently most of them are not capable of figuring that out until they have to live with the horrors of him cutting many programs that allow them to live. They are more concerned with "not having a biological male playing women's volleyball" than being able to have food and a roof over their family's head. They voted for this, now they get to experience exactly what they wanted.

Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:45     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?


You're already mentally ill you idiot, that's why you're posting this drivel on an anonymous forum. Trump broke all of you.


Nah. I’d say the idiocy of my compatriots has been breathtaking and disappointing. But Trump himself is a narcissistic loser. It’s a shame he’s going to bankrupt the United States but it’s all on the GOP now.

Personally I will just accept the tax cuts and cease worrying about Americans who don’t think a social safety net is a good idea. Not broken, just surprised.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:45     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?


You're already mentally ill you idiot, that's why you're posting this drivel on an anonymous forum. Trump broke all of you.


DP. I think the opposite is true. I think Trump appealed to the WORST in you the others who voted for him. You were already broken and he gave you a voice, allowed you to be who you always were, and made you feel better about your lives for a while. If you weren't so broken, you would not be drawn to this anonymous forum to continue raging against "libs" when your side had such big win. Why not be a joyful warrior for Trump and run along? Why keep coming back here to rage and gloat?
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:45     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?

You wouldn't be here posting paragraphs on a message board if you were capable of detachment. You're panicked and angry and undone by Trump's win and will spend the next four years completely derailed.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:43     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this stance is easier if you are not one of the groups who will be impacted by Trump’s policies.


Well, guess you should have voted and campaigned harder for her? Most groups impacted by Trump VOTED FOR HIM


Because they believe the lies he told. People not smart enough to realize much of what he plans to do will negatively impact him. We tried to tell them. They think we are condescending and chose to vote for him. That is their issue now. Quite frankly, if they are too stupid to vote in their own best interests, we can no longer help them. FAFO

Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:42     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Except that I’m afraid we’ll lose our military retirement and our healthcare - and will have to support a parent who will lose SS, we will be fine. We will live in blue states and blue cities. I hold out hope that enough republicans value the constitution that there might actually be a line they draw. Maybe.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:40     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:We all just had to sit and watch a wide open border policy, crime go through the roof, record inflation, attack on common sense. So……


What flavor was your Kool Aid?

Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:39     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this stance is easier if you are not one of the groups who will be impacted by Trump’s policies.


Yes. But the groups who will mostly be impacted voted for him. We were told that we are condescending to try and help, warn, prevent. So. There it is.


Yup! By and large the lower income people in the Deep red states---they utilize many social services programs---programs that are mostly funded by the Blue States (most blue states give far more to fed govt than they take). They want to cut many of those programs---which will mean those people have less services. Those states are largely the lower performers for Education---so we will eliminate the Dept of Education and leave it up to the states. Well how does the money work? Will it still flow from the Fed Govt? Or is that up to the states now? If it is, Arkansas, Alabama, etc will certainly not improve with less money to fund education. And with no federal guidelines, they will remove real history and science from the schools and turn religious.

But yes, I am done feeling sorry for people like that. You thought it was difficult to survive now, wait until the economy is doing worse and you don't have half your social services available anymore, and you no longer have any healthcare. The poor will simply get poorer with this plan.

Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:34     Subject: My headspace for the next 4 years
Anonymous wrote:I think this stance is easier if you are not one of the groups who will be impacted by Trump’s policies.


But plenty of those groups "who will be impacted by Trump's policies" are the same people who just VOTED for him. They believed the lies and cannot understand reality. Yes, I feel sorry for the by product (those who voted for Harris and will have bad things happen to them). That is why, despite the fact I would benefit greatly from R's in charge (financially--that's the main thing that will affect me---we can afford to get our daughters the healthcare they need, wherever it may be---and if they just stay in Blue states they will most likely be fine), I Voted Blue---always have, because I care about more than just my finances---I have empathy and care about people.

But unfortunately it is time for those who voted for him to learn that he doesn't care. That the healthcare you now how if ACA and he wants to cut it and has not plans for replacing it. The social services benefits you use to live and survive, he wants to cut those as well. Along with your poor elderly mom's medicare and SS.
And don't get me started on the people who came here illegally yet voted for Trump---if they get deported they are simply getting what they wanted apparently. If you are not capable of understanding that when you vote, then you quite frankly deserve the mess that is coming. He told you his plan.