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Anonymous wrote:I thinks it’s absurd that abortion is framed as “women’s rights,” as if women are the only ones involved. Babies include males too and every man had a mother and we damned well are entitled to have an opinion on what “women can do with their bodies.”

Her body, not yours

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, if I was a woman of child-bearing age, and I lived in a red state with strict abortion laws, I probably wouldn't be dating either.

Even if she finds a nice guy, getting pregnant in a red state could be fatal and or life ruining.

I would advise her to freeze some eggs and focus on a career and hobbies for a few year.

-- a man.

Psycho

How is this "psycho"?

Anonymous wrote:OP, your daughter's fears are reasonable. Regardless of what policy decisions will be made in the next four years, it is not in dispute that Trump's campaign has enabled the vitriol right here on this thread. It's not enough that the candidate won; the sputtering hostility towards women belies something else. What else? Hard to say say. What I do know is that confident, kind men (and women) don't need to punch down as these posters have. Guiding your young adult through dating and partner-finding is a tricky process, politics aside.

As to what she can do practically: while I do agree that misogyny played a role in this outcome, the cause was multifactorial (economics primarily, but also a persistent foreign disinformation campaign). This was not just a referendum on women. Also don't be fooled by stats: a significant proportion of American men voted differently. Be wary of viewing men as a monolith. It doesn't help them or us.

Finally, this has been an event that has defined her relationship goals. She clearly values equality in a relationship; traditional gender roles are not her thing. So she dates accordingly. As moms we know there is no playbook to doing it "right", but there's certainly a playbook to doing it wrong. Guys who want her to stop working upon marriage? No thanks. Guys who don't independently cook or plan or manage their own lives? No thanks. These guys are out there. Fear and sadness comes from a sense of loss of control. I too feel a loss as our country and this thread delights in being anti-woman. But it's an echo chamber. She has to turn awake from negative rhetoric like this thread to see and meet men who share her ideals. They're out there.

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Anonymous wrote:From OP - daughter is not a “shrew” or a “cat lady” - she is scared. I didn’t reference abortion specifically in my post. She is scared that a misogynistic (grab em by the p*ssy) rapist was elected president again and that men (and women) are OK with that. She is scared that respect for women doesn’t matter in society anymore and this is just the beginning of a downward spiral of women’s rights.

Did you ever stop and consider that many/all of the accusations against Trump were likely fabricated for political reasons? And as far as “grab em,” he specifically said “they let you!” Ie it is an issue with slutty behavior by women as much as anything.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that, but for a few, no one is responding with reasons daughter should not be scared and why she should trust that women’s rights still matter to most men. Only calling her a shrew and shaming the parent.

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Anonymous wrote:My 25 yr old daughter, who just moved to new city with a new job, has lost her faith in men. After America chose a misogynistic rapist to lead our country, she believes there are no men worth dating. She’s scared for her future and wants nothing to do with men. I am trying to convince her that there are supportive kind men out there (including her own father). Can you share examples of young men fighting for women’s rights?

Yes. They are in the US military and are either fighting for or willing to fight for the rights of women as well as men. However, your daughter is not worthy of them.

What? Whoa. Did you actually just say that?

Yes. What member of the military wants to be saddled with OP as a mother-in-law or the daughter as a wife. Military spouses have to respect people of both genders and she has lost faith in men. They have to be resilient and the daughter sounds as if she can handle no adversity. They have to love their spouse to endure the sacrifices they are called upon to make. The daughter loves no one but herself as she is not willing to tolerate anyone but those who meet her standards.

You got that from OPs post?

Anonymous wrote:OP do better as a parent. Obviously this child’s lack of critical thinking is a reflection of her upbringing.

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Anonymous wrote:No one cares about you cat lady daughter. She's free to move to another country if she doesn't like it here.

College probably indoctrinated her that she's a permanent victim of oppression unless she doesn't get her way 100% of the time.

Permanent victim of oppression? Like the white men that voted for Trump because they feel oppressed?

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Who knows maybe. Maybe they'll be an explosion of same-sex couples all around.

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Anonymous wrote:From OP - daughter is not a “shrew” or a “cat lady” - she is scared. I didn’t reference abortion specifically in my post. She is scared that a misogynistic (grab em by the p*ssy) rapist was elected president again and that men (and women) are OK with that. She is scared that respect for women doesn’t matter in society anymore and this is just the beginning of a downward spiral of women’s rights.

Did you ever stop and consider that many/all of the accusations against Trump were likely fabricated for political reasons? And as far as “grab em,” he specifically said “they let you!” Ie it is an issue with slutty behavior by women as much as anything.

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Anonymous wrote:No one cares about you cat lady daughter. She's free to move to another country if she doesn't like it here.

College probably indoctrinated her that she's a permanent victim of oppression unless she doesn't get her way 100% of the time.

Permanent victim of oppression? Like the white men that voted for Trump because they feel oppressed?

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Anonymous wrote:I thinks it’s absurd that abortion is framed as “women’s rights,” as if women are the only ones involved. Babies include males too and every man had a mother and we damned well are entitled to have an opinion on what “women can do with their bodies.”

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Anonymous wrote:No one cares about you cat lady daughter. She's free to move to another country if she doesn't like it here.

College probably indoctrinated her that she's a permanent victim of oppression unless she doesn't get her way 100% of the time.

Permanent victim of oppression? Like the white men that voted for Trump because they feel oppressed?

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous .Millions of men voted for Harris. There are tens of thousands of single men who voted for Harris in the very city your daughter moved to.