Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.
That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.
Does Einstein have capacity? Isn’t Woodward going change boundaries throughout WJ and DCC?
You have an ax to grind with Kensington and that is fine. But really it is time to move on.
No, they are severely overcrowded with portables.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.
That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.
The WJ cluster coordinator testified at the CIP hearing this week: "we ask that the ensuing boundary study for the new high school be conducted so as to ensure that all current WJHS neighborhoods be assigned to either WJHS or the new Woodward." Meaning they're against Kensington WJ neighborhoods within walking distance to Einstein being assigned to Einstein.
This is silly because Einstein is overcrowded so there would be no space for their kids. Even no space to move the Kensington kids over.
Most of the DCC high schools are overcrowded. If you actually want to address overcrowding in the DCC with the new HS and resulting boundary changes, you will have to move a lot of students around. And you can't move them all to Woodward as there isn't enough space there. Both Whitman and BCC are currently underutilized. One option would be to move Woodlin ES, currently zoned for Einstein and is already pretty far from Einstein, to BCC and another BCC feeder to Whitman. Unfortunately, that would increase segregation because Woodlin is one of the highest income ESs in the DCC.
At the same time, Wheaton HS is very overcrowded and a couple of its ES feeders are reasonably close to Woodward. So you could potentially shift 2 of its feeders to Woodward. Maybe a third Wheaton ES can be moved toward the Rockville clusters since the new Crown HS will also be coming. Then you can move a 2nd Einstein feeder to Wheaton. That opens up space at Einstein for Kensington-Parkwood (KP) ES (probably splitting it with the island zoned for KP that is right next to Woodward articulating to Woodward). Now, you have shifted 1 DCC ES to BCC and 2 to Woodward (possibly another ES to another cluster) and by bringing in KP to the DCC you reduce segregation instead of increasing it, while also reducing the distance that KP students must travel to high school.
BCC had an expansion a few years ago so it's not over capacity like WJ, but it's not underutilized either. It's basically at capacity (2400 students.) You can't move another feeder school there.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?
I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.
I am against all the busing from some areas like Kensington to places like BCC or WJ. Why can't people use their neighborhood schools?
You understand not all kids can always attend the school that is the exact closest distance from them, particularly if the high school, middle school, and elementary school aren’t on the same block?
Where I live the closest elementary school goes to WJ, closest middle school goes to BCC and closest HS is Einstein. Constantly re-mixing kids feels much more complicated than just letting a kid go to BCC, particularly if it is close enough to ride a bike.
But I'm for neighborhood schools!
Anonymous wrote:Bring magnet functions and quantum physics to my W school and I’ll stay home.
Rather than bussing anyone all over the county, they need to offer the same courses at all the HS.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There does seem to be a lot of segregation busing today that needs to end. Any boundary where half the families live closer to another school is flawed.
The schools that said families are closer to are often at capacity or overcrowded. That's why it's great to whine about this, because you get to virtual signal for eternity because it will never be fixed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.
That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.
Does Einstein have capacity? Isn’t Woodward going change boundaries throughout WJ and DCC?
You have an ax to grind with Kensington and that is fine. But really it is time to move on.
To support everyone always going to their closest school you have to also support remixing the student population every time they move from ES to MS to HS. MCPS prioritizes keeping kids together. Do you think cutting .3 miles off a kids commute is more important than keeping kids with their established cohorts? Do you see any school district in the country that de-prioritizes keeping kids together in exchange for such small bussing distances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.
That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.
Does Einstein have capacity? Isn’t Woodward going change boundaries throughout WJ and DCC?
You have an ax to grind with Kensington and that is fine. But really it is time to move on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.
That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.
Does Einstein have capacity? Isn’t Woodward going change boundaries throughout WJ and DCC?
You have an ax to grind with Kensington and that is fine. But really it is time to move on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.
That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.
Anonymous wrote:There does seem to be a lot of segregation busing today that needs to end. Any boundary where half the families live closer to another school is flawed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.
Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.
As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.
This is a good point? Our school has limited AP's and no advanced math or sciences. They need to bring these classes to all schools.
No, not a point at all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.
Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.
As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.
Thef s because Blair is NOT a pure magnet, so of course it ranks lower than pure magnets.
I can see why your family needs to spend every penny on college preparation. You're starting on the back foot.
Using the excuse that Blair is “not a pure magnet”? Okay. Here’s a different ranking site. Ranking factors include state test scores, college readiness, graduation rates, teacher quality, and magnet school ratings. SAT/ACT scores, etc.
https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-magnet-high-schools/s/maryland/
What’s the excuse now? ‘Not a pure magnet’? Guess what. Neither is Poolesville.
At some point MCPS either needs to accept the AEI failure and resolve to fix it, or blog on anonymous websites how everyone has Blair Envy and ‘start on the back foot’, although I never heard that weird meme before, and a little strange? Guess you were in a hurry to post a slight?
Blair has so few magnet students that Niche doesn't even consider Blair a magnet school.
https://www.niche.com/k12/montgomery-blair-high-school-silver-spring-md/
Poolesville is half the size of Blair, and has 3 magnet programs to Blair's 2 magnet programs. Poolesville non-magnet serves a wealthier, less diverse population than Blair non-magnet population.
How stupid can you be? What point are you even trying to make?
Why are you so focused on Blair, a school whose basic structure you know nothing about?