Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The reason gen Z have become defenders of an oppressive regime is because we aren't allowed to talk about their core values that lead Afghanistan, Iran, Hamas, ISIS, Syria, etc to be so oppressive. So of course they don't know how they would themselves be treated in any one of those countries and several more moderate ones. We are pretending they have no common thread.
Israel finds itself in the middle of all that. Israel most definitely has committed atrocities in response. But when your attacked like Israel was, the warmongers take control. It's a vicious cycle, but we're not allowed to talk about one side of it.
For once … just once … will you stop pretending that the world began on 10/7/2023?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The reason gen Z have become defenders of an oppressive regime is because we aren't allowed to talk about their core values that lead Afghanistan, Iran, Hamas, ISIS, Syria, etc to be so oppressive. So of course they don't know how they would themselves be treated in any one of those countries and several more moderate ones. We are pretending they have no common thread.
Israel finds itself in the middle of all that. Israel most definitely has committed atrocities in response. But when your attacked like Israel was, the warmongers take control. It's a vicious cycle, but we're not allowed to talk about one side of it.
This mess of provincial ignorance you wrote, is why you have no business lecturing Gen Z. You exemplify the profound arrogance that comes with being your garden variety, know-nothing who grew up with antiquated media telling you everything you know. Your brain chose to be Swiss cheese when it comes to history. From terrorism to fanaticism to invasions to "attacked" to deposing to propping up, etc...
I don't know why people like you insist upon sharing your limitations and thinking you actually know what you're talking about. You don't.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The reason gen Z have become defenders of an oppressive regime is because we aren't allowed to talk about their core values that lead Afghanistan, Iran, Hamas, ISIS, Syria, etc to be so oppressive. So of course they don't know how they would themselves be treated in any one of those countries and several more moderate ones. We are pretending they have no common thread.
Israel finds itself in the middle of all that. Israel most definitely has committed atrocities in response. But when your attacked like Israel was, the warmongers take control. It's a vicious cycle, but we're not allowed to talk about one side of it.
For once … just once … will you stop pretending that the world began on 10/7/2023?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/V76HS4jHoJE?si=5qQgfWo6idKSQFq0
ICYMI: Bill Maher quickly breaks down the Middle East using history and facts for the benefit of everyone—but particularly for Chappell Roan and the TikTok generation.
Sure, he cracks jokes along the way. But his bit is grounded in history and facts.
Can anyone really dispute it? I mean, can anyone dispute the facts without resorting to the lazy knee jerk “Zionist colonizers” rhetoric…which Maher easily explains is both silly and false.
Watch the clip and then let’s talk.
My god. I laughed - but I also got chills. He is so spot on. Recently, he’s said all the truths that need to be said. Bravo, Bill Maher.
Your god? The one who gave you the promise ring with title to the holy land from a burning bush millennia ago?
I grew up as an American expat in the middle east. Some societies just don't tolerate freedom of thought, action, or religion. We shouldn't act like that isn't the source of their conflicts with their neighbors.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The reason gen Z have become defenders of an oppressive regime is because we aren't allowed to talk about their core values that lead Afghanistan, Iran, Hamas, ISIS, Syria, etc to be so oppressive. So of course they don't know how they would themselves be treated in any one of those countries and several more moderate ones. We are pretending they have no common thread.
Israel finds itself in the middle of all that. Israel most definitely has committed atrocities in response. But when your attacked like Israel was, the warmongers take control. It's a vicious cycle, but we're not allowed to talk about one side of it.
This mess of provincial ignorance you wrote, is why you have no business lecturing Gen Z. You exemplify the profound arrogance that comes with being your garden variety, know-nothing who grew up with antiquated media telling you everything you know. Your brain chose to be Swiss cheese when it comes to history. From terrorism to fanaticism to invasions to "attacked" to deposing to propping up, etc...
I don't know why people like you insist upon sharing your limitations and thinking you actually know what you're talking about. You don't.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/V76HS4jHoJE?si=5qQgfWo6idKSQFq0
ICYMI: Bill Maher quickly breaks down the Middle East using history and facts for the benefit of everyone—but particularly for Chappell Roan and the TikTok generation.
Sure, he cracks jokes along the way. But his bit is grounded in history and facts.
Can anyone really dispute it? I mean, can anyone dispute the facts without resorting to the lazy knee jerk “Zionist colonizers” rhetoric…which Maher easily explains is both silly and false.
Watch the clip and then let’s talk.
My god. I laughed - but I also got chills. He is so spot on. Recently, he’s said all the truths that need to be said. Bravo, Bill Maher.
Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/V76HS4jHoJE?si=5qQgfWo6idKSQFq0
ICYMI: Bill Maher quickly breaks down the Middle East using history and facts for the benefit of everyone—but particularly for Chappell Roan and the TikTok generation.
Sure, he cracks jokes along the way. But his bit is grounded in history and facts.
Can anyone really dispute it? I mean, can anyone dispute the facts without resorting to the lazy knee jerk “Zionist colonizers” rhetoric…which Maher easily explains is both silly and false.
Watch the clip and then let’s talk.
Anonymous wrote:The reason gen Z have become defenders of an oppressive regime is because we aren't allowed to talk about their core values that lead Afghanistan, Iran, Hamas, ISIS, Syria, etc to be so oppressive. So of course they don't know how they would themselves be treated in any one of those countries and several more moderate ones. We are pretending they have no common thread.
Israel finds itself in the middle of all that. Israel most definitely has committed atrocities in response. But when your attacked like Israel was, the warmongers take control. It's a vicious cycle, but we're not allowed to talk about one side of it.
Anonymous wrote:The reason gen Z have become defenders of an oppressive regime is because we aren't allowed to talk about their core values that lead Afghanistan, Iran, Hamas, ISIS, Syria, etc to be so oppressive. So of course they don't know how they would themselves be treated in any one of those countries and several more moderate ones. We are pretending they have no common thread.
Israel finds itself in the middle of all that. Israel most definitely has committed atrocities in response. But when your attacked like Israel was, the warmongers take control. It's a vicious cycle, but we're not allowed to talk about one side of it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the first few minutes he says "Chappell Roan is blowing up like a Hezbollah pager". Does anyone else not find this extremely disrespectful to the humans harmed by the pagers (who were not just Hezbollah militants but innocent bystanders including children)?
He’s a comic, and jokes get a free pass…even if you find them distasteful.
Why?
Because context matters.
It would be distasteful for an elected official to say that, but it’s not judged through the same lens when a comedian with a show focused on pushing the envelope on such issues says it.
Trust me: nobody wants to live in a world where comics are silenced—particularly the ones focused on politics and pop culture.
I guess what strikes me is that no comedian would joke this way about 10/7 and if you are trying to make a case that Israel is acting in a reasonable manner setting up the case dehumanizing others makes me think you are pretty biased to begin with.
Anonymous wrote:The reason gen Z have become defenders of an oppressive regime is because we aren't allowed to talk about their core values that lead Afghanistan, Iran, Hamas, ISIS, Syria, etc to be so oppressive. So of course they don't know how they would themselves be treated in any one of those countries and several more moderate ones. We are pretending they have no common thread.
Israel finds itself in the middle of all that. Israel most definitely has committed atrocities in response. But when your attacked like Israel was, the warmongers take control. It's a vicious cycle, but we're not allowed to talk about one side of it.