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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13865621/amp/michelle-obama-throws-soda-costco-warehouse-california.html

Michelle Obama surprised crowds at Costco when she was spotted giving a sales pitch for her new healthy drink, Plezi Fizz, at a Costco in Livermore, CA.

A TikTok video posted on Tuesday showed the former first lady standing in front of a stockpile of the drinks that were launched in March.

Have you tried her new drink? I have never even heard of it.

Wonder when MT (married to orange felon who is still trying to run for president) come out with hers? She seems to want to do whatever MO does. Eww.

A mom raised in Europe would rather jump into a live volcano than feed her child ultra processed food/drink. They don’t have that kind of chemical slop in Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:The drink doesn’t meet the nutritional standards she forced American schools to adopt via her Healthy, Hunger free kids food program. Hmmmmmm.

This is ridiculous Fox News level distortionary nitpicking.

The Obama USDA standards limited juice to "100% juice with no added sweeteners", to ban juices that over sweeten with concentrates and sugar syrup.

Plezi has 50-75% LESS sugar than 100% juice.

The former First Lady's campaigning to improve the health of American children resulted in updated guidelines for school meals and drinks that limit the permitted types to milk, water, or 100 percent juice in 2014.

While plexi contains no added sugar, the juice content is almost exclusively from concentrate, which typically contains less nutritional value than whole fruit juice. That’s why they had to add corn fiber.


Jerold Mande, an adjunct professor of nutrition at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and CEO of Nourish Science, a nonprofit focused on nutrition, told Bloomberg: 'She has been ill-served by advisers who convinced her to start by targeting 6- to 12-year-olds with a flashy, ultra-processed beverage that may not be any healthier than diet soda.'

I really thought she was better than this. Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:The drink doesn’t meet the nutritional standards she forced American schools to adopt via her Healthy, Hunger free kids food program. Hmmmmmm.

This is ridiculous Fox News level distortionary nitpicking.

The Obama USDA standards limited juice to "100% juice with no added sweeteners", to ban juices that over sweeten with concentrates and sugar syrup.

Plezi has 50-75% LESS sugar than 100% juice.

The former First Lady's campaigning to improve the health of American children resulted in updated guidelines for school meals and drinks that limit the permitted types to milk, water, or 100 percent juice in 2014.

While plexi contains no added sugar, the juice content is almost exclusively from concentrate, which typically contains less nutritional value than whole fruit juice. That’s why they had to add corn fiber.


Jerold Mande, an adjunct professor of nutrition at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and CEO of Nourish Science, a nonprofit focused on nutrition, told Bloomberg: 'She has been ill-served by advisers who convinced her to start by targeting 6- to 12-year-olds with a flashy, ultra-processed beverage that may not be any healthier than diet soda.'

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Anonymous wrote:The drink doesn’t meet the nutritional standards she forced American schools to adopt via her Healthy, Hunger free kids food program. Hmmmmmm.

This is ridiculous Fox News level distortionary nitpicking.

The Obama USDA standards limited juice to "100% juice with no added sweeteners", to ban juices that over sweeten with concentrates and sugar syrup.

Plezi has 50-75% LESS sugar than 100% juice.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13865621/amp/michelle-obama-throws-soda-costco-warehouse-california.html

Michelle Obama surprised crowds at Costco when she was spotted giving a sales pitch for her new healthy drink, Plezi Fizz, at a Costco in Livermore, CA.

A TikTok video posted on Tuesday showed the former first lady standing in front of a stockpile of the drinks that were launched in March.

Have you tried her new drink? I have never even heard of it.

Wonder when MT (married to orange felon who is still trying to run for president) come out with hers? She seems to want to do whatever MO does. Eww.

Anonymous wrote:The drink doesn’t meet the nutritional standards she forced American schools to adopt via her Healthy, Hunger free kids food program. Hmmmmmm.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13865621/amp/michelle-obama-throws-soda-costco-warehouse-california.html

Michelle Obama surprised crowds at Costco when she was spotted giving a sales pitch for her new healthy drink, Plezi Fizz, at a Costco in Livermore, CA.

A TikTok video posted on Tuesday showed the former first lady standing in front of a stockpile of the drinks that were launched in March.

Have you tried her new drink? I have never even heard of it.

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Anonymous wrote:25% the sugar of juice. Added fiber.
Added stevia.

Better than juice or soda.

Worse than tap water, if you have a clean water source.

Waste of money if you're on SNAP.

The fiber is corn fiber. Have you ever willingly consumed corn fiber? I think corn fiber is a huge component of low grade pet food!

Corn fiber? Like what popcorn and corn on the cob is made of?

Soluble corn fiber is made by adding heat and acid to regular high-fructose corn syrup. This rendering-down process helps burn off many of the sugar compounds found in traditional HFCS. The final product contains only one type of saccharide (another term for sugar)

So it's HFCS without the HF, which is the bad part of HFCS? We're doomed!!!!


It's an oligosaccharide, not a monosaccharide or disaccharide (sugar).

oligosaccharide is a simple sugar.

Oligosaccharides are a type of carbohydrate chain made up of three to 10 simple sugars, which are also known as monosaccharides.

Reread what you wrote, slowly. Then go read a dictionary.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't sure about this product until how stupid the opposition was. Now I love GMO-Panic weirdos and people who are too upper class to visit a Costco, vs a public health entrepreneur offering a higher quality product than the competition.

Guess what: Michelle Obama is smarter than you "worried" and "disappointed" people

Michelle is an attorney.

Yep. Multi-talented.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like it's healthier than most of the crap drinks being sold to kids.

I’ve had so many requests to comment on Michelle Obama’s new PLEZi food business—reduced sugar but ultraprocessed artificially sweetened drinks for kids—that I feel obliged to write about them, unhappy as I am as having to consider this enterprise so ill advised.

Why my dismay?

Take a look at the PLEZi Blueberry Blast drink’s nutrition information and ingredient list.

This product has a lot less sugar than Coke or Pepsi and contains zero added sugars, but it has five sweeteners:

Apple juice concentrate (Translation: sugar derived from apples)
Watermelon juice concentrate (ditto from watermelons)
Blueberry juice concentrate (ditto from blueberries)
Stevia leaf extract
Monk fruit extract
These, plus “natural flavors” (don’t get me started) and some of the other ingredients put this squarely in the category of ultraprocessed products, now strongly associated with poor health and promotion of excessive calorie intake.

These drinks do not meet my idea of a “higher standard,” alas.

Instead, I see PLEZi as a direct competitor of existing drinks—Kraft’s Capri Sun and Kool-Aid Jammers among them—both with less sugar than Coke or Pepsi, and neither what I would consider a health food.

I found PLEZi shelved right with other sweetened drinks aimed at kids at the Target in Ithaca, New York.


The competition

PLEZi’s nutritional profile isn’t all that different from that of “half the sugar” Capri Sun. Here’s Capri Sun Strawberry Kiwi:


Capri Sun has the same kinds of ingredients as PLEZi, but less fruit juice, and a little more overall sugar. To me, they don’t look all that different.

What about taste?

I bought packages of PLEZi Blueberry Blast, Orange Smash, and Capri Sun ‘s “half the sugar” Strawberry Kiwi.

OK, I am not these products’ core customer. They are not aimed at me. I thought the PLEZi drinks were oddly colored and watery, and had undistinguishable flavors and the slight off-taste of monk fruit sweetener.

Capri Sun is noticably sweeter, which is not surprising: it has 7 grams of sugar in 6 ounces, whereas PLEZi has 6 grams of sugar in 8 ounces.

But all of these drinks raise the same question: Is a somewhat less sugary, sweetened, “better-for-you” drink necessarily a good choice?

Many healthier drinks are available for kids.

I would like to know:

Why anyone would think kids need another drink like this.
Why someone didn’t identify PLEZi drinks as ultraprocessed.
Why someone didn’t intervene to protect Mrs. Obama from getting involved in this dubious enterprise.
https://www.foodpolitics.com/2023/05/plezi-healthier-for-kids-maybe-but-healthy/

Dubious indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:25% the sugar of juice. Added fiber.
Added stevia.

Better than juice or soda.

Worse than tap water, if you have a clean water source.

Waste of money if you're on SNAP.

The fiber is corn fiber. Have you ever willingly consumed corn fiber? I think corn fiber is a huge component of low grade pet food!

Corn fiber? Like what popcorn and corn on the cob is made of?

Soluble corn fiber is made by adding heat and acid to regular high-fructose corn syrup. This rendering-down process helps burn off many of the sugar compounds found in traditional HFCS. The final product contains only one type of saccharide (another term for sugar)

So it's HFCS without the HF, which is the bad part of HFCS? We're doomed!!!!


It's an oligosaccharide, not a monosaccharide or disaccharide (sugar).

oligosaccharide is a simple sugar.

Oligosaccharides are a type of carbohydrate chain made up of three to 10 simple sugars, which are also known as monosaccharides.

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Anonymous wrote:25% the sugar of juice. Added fiber.
Added stevia.

Better than juice or soda.

Worse than tap water, if you have a clean water source.

Waste of money if you're on SNAP.

The fiber is corn fiber. Have you ever willingly consumed corn fiber? I think corn fiber is a huge component of low grade pet food!