Anonymous
09/10/2024 12:08
Subject: If you are Asian, is it better not to list on your college application under race and leave as "preferred not to state?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This was not my family’s experience , but it seems that people won’t let go of the belief, so I am really not sure how to get through to DCUM posters!
?? It wasn't the belief.
It was revealed as a fact in the Supreme Court.
Harvard does not represent the universe of colleges. They could fill 100 classes with kids who meet admissions criteria, so will eliminate most of those based upon criteria that go beyond SAT scores.
My Asian kid did not aspire to an Ivy, so had an equal or advantaged path in front of her.
Of course it doesn't represent the universe of colleges.
It represents the universe of highly selective colleges.
There is no question that affirmative action at selective colleges provided significant race based preferences.
Anonymous
09/10/2024 11:55
Subject: Re:If you are Asian, is it better not to list on your college application under race and leave as "preferred not to state?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they hate asians so much that they keep on accepting them in overwelmingly disppropotionate numbers.
reminds me of work, white male colleague/friend worried aloud whether he would make partner as a white male due to firm's commitment to diversity. even though every year the firm overwelmingly elevates white men.
the firm had, and has, 1 blk nonequity partner, 1 asian, maybe 2 latin, 1 gay, 30% women partners. meanwhile if a blk lady makes it, it is bc she is blk despite trend suggesting she must have been exceptional.
i told him they may not make him partner due to his inability to do math and discern appropriate conclusions from past data.
Asians may get accepted in disproportionate numbers, but they are even more disproportionately qualified.
https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf
It's not even close.
How to get you to understand that standardized test scores are just one qualification out of many.
Stop acting like they trump all else.
Others do not share that value!
Tests scores are a pretty handy number because they correlate to pretty much everything else you would want.
And is more accurate than any other measure.
That's why so many schools are going back to test required.
Anonymous
09/10/2024 09:45
Subject: If you are Asian, is it better not to list on your college application under race and leave as "preferred not to state?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This was not my family’s experience , but it seems that people won’t let go of the belief, so I am really not sure how to get through to DCUM posters!
?? It wasn't the belief.
It was revealed as a fact in the Supreme Court.
Harvard does not represent the universe of colleges. They could fill 100 classes with kids who meet admissions criteria, so will eliminate most of those based upon criteria that go beyond SAT scores.
My Asian kid did not aspire to an Ivy, so had an equal or advantaged path in front of her.
Anonymous
09/10/2024 09:38
Subject: If you are Asian, is it better not to list on your college application under race and leave as "preferred not to state?
Anonymous wrote:they know it from your last name, no need to hide!?
And the interview.
Anonymous
09/10/2024 09:38
Subject: Re:If you are Asian, is it better not to list on your college application under race and leave as "preferred not to state?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they hate asians so much that they keep on accepting them in overwelmingly disppropotionate numbers.
reminds me of work, white male colleague/friend worried aloud whether he would make partner as a white male due to firm's commitment to diversity. even though every year the firm overwelmingly elevates white men.
the firm had, and has, 1 blk nonequity partner, 1 asian, maybe 2 latin, 1 gay, 30% women partners. meanwhile if a blk lady makes it, it is bc she is blk despite trend suggesting she must have been exceptional.
i told him they may not make him partner due to his inability to do math and discern appropriate conclusions from past data.
Asians may get accepted in disproportionate numbers, but they are even more disproportionately qualified.
https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf
It's not even close.
How to get you to understand that standardized test scores are just one qualification out of many.
Stop acting like they trump all else.
Others do not share that value!