Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 20:18     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting that the shooter was known to law enforcement (unclear why) and the father recently told law enforcement that the kid didn’t have access to guns.

So many questions.


No. Only one question. Why don’t we outlaw guns like every other civilized country?

If you want to argue second amendment, every single gun owner should be registered and subject to some rules and laws regarding a well regulated militia.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 20:12     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

CNN is reporting that the shooter was known to law enforcement (unclear why) and the father recently told law enforcement that the kid didn’t have access to guns.

So many questions.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:58     Subject: Re:Another day, another school shooting

The uvalde shooter was Latino. It doesn’t matter unless it’s a muslim attack. Then it would be called a terror attack/terrorizing a school
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:56     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:If Black male gun owners paraded through every American city with firearms displayed, we would have gun control. Follow that with Latino men.


It happened before.


If it didn’t happen after the dc sniper, it’s never happening. Gun control is just not an American priority

I think there’s a huge isolation and mental problem with misfits/failure to launch males in this country
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:51     Subject: Re:Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic


So I have to wait around, get searched, pay for a bunch of people to play security theater just so right-wingers can cuddle up with their emotional security guns? That's messed up.


Yep. Once again: even with all of the mass shootings, how much progress has been made with gun control?! How much progress will be made in the near future? The most realistic guess is: none. None at all.

Realistically, the choice is increased security measures (whether that inconveniences you or not) OR the shootings continue with no reductions.



Or we run hundreds of articles and op ed pieces and shine a big f***ing spotlight on the problem - obstructionist Republicans who would rather let kids die than vote "yes" on firearm regulations. Pick a Republican member of Congress who votes "no" and run 192 articles in two weeks (we know the New York Times can do this) highlighting the a**hole's voting record, money he's received from the gun lobby, and the dead kids he doesn't want to help. Maybe do side stories on the weird gun fetishists with dozens of rifles and handguns. Get real up close and personal with the kind of sketchy weirdos who sell firearm accessories along with Nazi regalia at flea markets.


This is an excellent idea. More attention needs to be paid to the enablers of our children’s assassins.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:32     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:If Black male gun owners paraded through every American city with firearms displayed, we would have gun control. Follow that with Latino men.


It happened before.


We saw that 4 years ago and nothing changed.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:24     Subject: Re:Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is terrible. However, we should start labeling them post-birth abortions and maybe it'll get the attention of the deplorables.

ha

+1

They care so much about a bunch of cells but not about actual living, breathing, thinking children going to school.


Maybe in the Sept. 10 debate this can be pointed out to Trump and ask him why?
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:10     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

If Black male gun owners paraded through every American city with firearms displayed, we would have gun control. Follow that with Latino men.


It happened before.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:06     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:Washington Post has been tracking gun violence at school (the federal government, in yet another mind-boggling failure in this area, doesn't even track this). Nearly 400,000 students have experienced gun violence at their school since Columbine. This includes kids who died, were injured, witnessed violence, or cowered in closets or bathrooms to hide from the shootings on the other side of the door.

Untold numbers of schools schools have also had false alarms -- not drills, but actual lockdowns that are triggered, leading the school and students to believe that it's their turn. (My own kid had one of these. She hid in the closet and texted me that she loved me).

And of course EVERY kid has done drills, countless drills, in each one imagining the moment someone enters their place of learning to hunt them like an animal.

Nobody wants it this way. No one. Not even the A-rated-by-the-NRA cowards in congress. Eventually, the politicians will crack. It will be harder to do nothing than it is to make change. Once a few shift, most will. We will look back on this time, and see it for what it was, and is: madness.

"From my cold dead hands"...

-ammosexual
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:05     Subject: Re:Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:Gun control isn’t the problem. A 14-year-old can’t purchase a gun. The parents failed in this situation by not properly storing their guns. No 14-year-old should be able to easily access a firearm.

England doesn't allow most people to store guns in their homes. They have to be kept at firing ranges.

Also, kids can buy ghost guns off the internet.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 19:02     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:Arrest the parents every time. Maybe some parents will atop being so reckless with their firearms.



+1000. Access to a gun is child neglect.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 18:53     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with boys?


Girls don’t do this


The Nashville school shooter?


Oh come on, girl shooters are an unusual exception. These thing are massively, overwhelmingly done by someone with a Y chromosome. You can't deny that there's a problem going on in the way boys are raised to take their shit out on others.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 18:52     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Imagine sending your child to school and that's the last time you ever see them.


The news reported a text to a mother from a 16 year old student huddled with her classmates during the shooting that said, "I know I have not been a perfect daughter. I love you. I'm sorry."


This is heartbreaking. I hope we learn she survived and is physically uninjured. The psychological effects will be life long.

Didn’t Youngkin just ban cell phones in schools so Virginia parents wouldn’t even have a “goodbye?”

Do you even hear yourself? You’re mad because kids might not have their cell phone in case somebody comes into shoot them because it’s so freaking common place. think about that.


That was my exact point. They are too common. Something needs to be done.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 18:48     Subject: Re:Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:Gun control isn’t the problem. A 14-year-old can’t purchase a gun. The parents failed in this situation by not properly storing their guns. No 14-year-old should be able to easily access a firearm.


Gun control laws are the problem. We need to have federal laws for proper gun ownership, tracking, storing, and disposal. We also can improve gun technology so that it can only be operated by authorized users. We are innovative enough to make sure the iPhone can be accessed by its user and can be locked if it is lost. I am sure we can do the same with guns if we find the motivation to do it.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 18:44     Subject: Another day, another school shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Epidemic of mental illness.


This is the real problem. Need to send our mentally ill abroad, after all we are taking in everyone’s misfits, only fair to return the favor.


WTAF! How dare you call my mentally ill child a misfit? If you care about solutions, demand REAL mental health care for our children from our elected officials. Republican elected officials are less likely to support mental health care improvements. If you cannot do that shut the hell up.

Mental health is not the issue - out-of-control Gun ownership is. There are many other developed countries that have the same mental health issues and do not have a gun violence epidemic like our country has. Wake up people!