Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 10:51     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:Unironically.
Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.


Yeah, get lost twit!
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 10:50     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:Family of 5 here, with two dogs, in a 1400 sqf single family home. Perfectly happy.

That's 280 sqf per person. OP probably is a single dude living in a 1700 sqf apartment.

That's what these idiots don't get.


I apologize, I don't understand what your point is. Is your point that five people plus two dogs can live perfectly happily in 1,400 square feet of living space? I haven't noticed anybody disagreeing with that point.

Just anecdotally, there are very, very, very few 1,700 square foot apartments.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 10:39     Subject: Re:The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

What’s funny about the YIMBYs is that there’s broad agreement that housing costs too much, that more supply would bring prices down, and that more density is part of the solution. But the YIMBYs still keep amplifying the loons who disagree with this and they still haven’t figured out how to break the business cycle that leads to shortages. It’s almost as if they prefer arguing with loons to coming up with policies that would actually force developers to build more housing and settle for lower returns.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 09:58     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Family of 5 here, with two dogs, in a 1400 sqf single family home. Perfectly happy.

That's 280 sqf per person. OP probably is a single dude living in a 1700 sqf apartment.

That's what these idiots don't get.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 09:40     Subject: Re:The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC has acres and acres of undeveloped land. Drive up New York Ave towards route 50 for instance. There are many similar areas in the city. The fact that you think it’s urgent to end single family zoning now, rather than go after the aforementioned areas first, tells me that you aren’t serious and that you have an agenda.


I don’t know this area specifically, but there is a surprising amount of Federal land that you would never expect. The Feds won’t allow it to be developed.

You may see a large, open field that is ripe for development right next to apartment, and almost always it turns out to be Fed property that they won’t allow.


And when hidebound state governments are involved it is even worse Virginia Department of Transportation owns Langston Blvd and merrily screws up every project tired for that corridor in Arlington.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 08:31     Subject: Re:The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:DC has acres and acres of undeveloped land. Drive up New York Ave towards route 50 for instance. There are many similar areas in the city. The fact that you think it’s urgent to end single family zoning now, rather than go after the aforementioned areas first, tells me that you aren’t serious and that you have an agenda.


I don’t know this area specifically, but there is a surprising amount of Federal land that you would never expect. The Feds won’t allow it to be developed.

You may see a large, open field that is ripe for development right next to apartment, and almost always it turns out to be Fed property that they won’t allow.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 08:00     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

I don’t have the energy this morning to read this whole thread To check to see if anyone else has mentioned it, but the NYT Article from yesterday morning about housing in Kalamazoo Michigan is very much on point.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 07:58     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I will take my kid to a public park to play if you stop letting your dogs run wild and stop smoking pot that we have to smell. I will live in your dense housing if you do both of the above and stop playing music loudly and yelling at each other.


+1. I actually wouldn't mind going back to apartment living, in theory. But unfortunately, people are more obnoxious and inconsiderate than ever, and I need peace and quiet at home. I don't want to hear your music, your loud conversations, your animals barking, and your TV volume cranked up to the max, nor do I want to smell pot all day, nor do I want to hear nonstop stomping because you don't know how to walk softly. This is the sort of stuff that was actually the norm not that long ago.

I actually think there's a huge untapped market for quiet apartment buildings -- well constructed, and with noise decibel monitors and smoke sensors. If any developer was serious about this, I'd consider moving.


An apartment building for civilized/civic minded people? Meaning what a generation ago would have been the norm? I like this.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 07:56     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBY people understand that people move to the suburbs because they want to live in the suburbs? Not everyone wants a small apartment and walkability. Some of us want yards and space


This is why you are selfish and what you don’t understand. It’s not only that I personally prefer high-density urban planning and walkability. It’s that if more people lived this way, then we wouldn’t have the suburban garbage like stroads and strip malls and sprawl. If you house 20 families in an acre as opposed to one or two families, then that acreage can turn back into forest land, or green space, and be home to more biodiversity, OR it can be used for local farming, OR solar fields to power the neighborhoods. Land is finite and it better used that way than for empty lawns and gas-guzzling SUVs.


You sound insane. No offense. In the way of all the utopians who inadvertently create dystopias with their engineering. America has farmland. We're good. Maybe cut down on global population growth?
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 07:52     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

“Bring on the YIMBY revolution.“

Most self-proclaimed YIMBYs are really “YIYBYs”. — “Yes, in your backyard.”
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 07:49     Subject: Re:The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:DC has acres and acres of undeveloped land. Drive up New York Ave towards route 50 for instance. There are many similar areas in the city. The fact that you think it’s urgent to end single family zoning now, rather than go after the aforementioned areas first, tells me that you aren’t serious and that you have an agenda.


The higher potential profit opportunities for development are in the sought-after residential areas.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 01:44     Subject: Re:The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

DC has acres and acres of undeveloped land. Drive up New York Ave towards route 50 for instance. There are many similar areas in the city. The fact that you think it’s urgent to end single family zoning now, rather than go after the aforementioned areas first, tells me that you aren’t serious and that you have an agenda.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 01:40     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:Unironically.
Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.


Low effort post of the day here
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 01:05     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:Unironically.
Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.


I totally agree!
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2024 00:05     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:I will take my kid to a public park to play if you stop letting your dogs run wild and stop smoking pot that we have to smell. I will live in your dense housing if you do both of the above and stop playing music loudly and yelling at each other.


+1. I actually wouldn't mind going back to apartment living, in theory. But unfortunately, people are more obnoxious and inconsiderate than ever, and I need peace and quiet at home. I don't want to hear your music, your loud conversations, your animals barking, and your TV volume cranked up to the max, nor do I want to smell pot all day, nor do I want to hear nonstop stomping because you don't know how to walk softly. This is the sort of stuff that was actually the norm not that long ago.

I actually think there's a huge untapped market for quiet apartment buildings -- well constructed, and with noise decibel monitors and smoke sensors. If any developer was serious about this, I'd consider moving.