Anonymous
08/13/2024 16:17
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.
How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?
Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.
Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.
It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.
It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.
However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.
I guess we are spoiled in this area.
DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.
I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.
You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.
TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me
Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866
Looks like just one post-AP math class.
Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 16:09
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.
How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?
Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.
Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.
It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.
It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.
However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.
I guess we are spoiled in this area.
DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.
I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.
You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.
TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me
Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866
Anonymous
08/13/2024 16:01
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.
How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?
Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.
Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.
It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.
It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.
However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.
I guess we are spoiled in this area.
DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.
I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.
You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.
TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:58
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.
How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?
Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.
Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.
It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.
It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.
However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.
I guess we are spoiled in this area.
DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.
I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.
You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:56
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.
How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?
Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.
Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.
It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.
It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.
However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.
I guess we are spoiled in this area.
DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:53
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.
How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?
Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.
Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.
It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.
It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.
However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.
I guess we are spoiled in this area.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:52
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some people are reporting that their kids are taking 10+, 15, and even 20 AP classes. How is this possible? I am looking at my rising 9th grader's schedule and I don't see how you can pack more than about 10 AP classes? They can only take 1 AP class in 9th grade and you can't take, say, AP Biology, from the getgo.
If you read this the college threads, it's clear the parents are fueling this insanity by putting such an overwhelming emphasis on college. And parents on here seem more focused on college admission, rather than anything that comes after.
College is just a 4-year stop in a hopefully very long life. I'm more focused on setting my kid up for what comes after college rather than getting into a selective one with an impressive logo. If they only can get to an impressive logo college by being on a treadmill where they are overwhelming their schedule with APs, competitive sports and extracurriculars and service jobs they will arrive in a state of anxiety. Their will learn that their life is about impressing people and striving/chasing for the next "impressive goal". They'll assume achieving their high goals equates to happiness and will wonder when they get there why they aren't happy. Why they still feel anxiety and depression and constantly compare themselves to their equally high strung peers.
If it seems crazy to you for a kid fit in 10 APs between sophamore and senior years it is because it is crazy and shouldn't happen outside of some exceptional cases where the kid is very gifted and would not be challenged by regular level classes. But instead we have an arms race of crazed parents leading their kids into a crazed cycle of anxiety and comparison. And I've already seen parents on this thread reply with the may ways their kids have fit in 10-15 APs. Sigh.
I tend to agree with you.
However, my kid managed 8 APs, 4 each junior and senior year. However, they stuck to mostly STEM APs that were the next logical path for the advanced math and science kid.
Took 8th grade took regular biology and Geometry, 9th took regular Chem and Algebra2 (we don't have Honors courses). 10th was precalc and regular Physics. So when 11th came, the next logical path was AP Chem and Calc AB. They also took AP Psych and AP Comp Sci A. For them it was easy and not too time consuming. However they didn't want to do APUSH and AP Eng as those would cut into their 15-20 hours/week for their year round competitive sport. And the AP FL teacher sucked so my kid stopped after Spanish 3 (they'd had them for Spanish 2 and teacher couldn't teach their way out of a box on fire if needed to).
Senior year was AP Physics C Mech and Calc BC and AP Statistics and for final "elective" AP CompSci Principals. Kid was in band all 4 years as well. But these APs did not take up more time for my kids and were naturally the next course in their academic progression. They smartly chose not to overwhelm themselves with AP humanities that would be time consuming---sure they could have but then they would only get 3-4 hours of sleep each night.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:50
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't take AP classes and get anything less than 5 - otherwise, it means nothing.
I disagree.
Yeah. Thats an odd statement. Quite a number of schools accept 4s for credit and some take 3s depending on the class.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:49
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Is it TJ? Why not just say so. Of course it isn’t…they don’t implement a rigid AP requirement.
What other sources are there?
I don’t hate public schools…but you can’t reference a ranking that is basically entirely dependent upon AP classes taken…and then think your ranking isn’t basically dependent upon forcing kids to take a lot of AP classes.
What source would appeal to you? Private schools also have rankings im sure, I don’t keep up with the exeters and choates. There’s a ton out there, Newsweek used to be a big one. I’m not sure why I have to defend my child’s high school.
I will take any 3rd party source you have. You claimed there were others.
I’ll say that they’re highly ranked on Niche, the state’s high school ranking board, newsweek( not sure they still do rankings ), etc.
Newsweek hasn’t done rankings in years. I don’t understand why you don’t just name the school…nobody else has a problem saying their kid goes to TJ or Blair Magnet or Sidwell or wherever.
Not from DC and don’t really need to put my information out there? Great that people are willing to say Sidwell, good for those parents. For you, it’s DC’s high school. Does it pain you that much to evaluate past knowing the name?
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:48
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.
How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?
Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.
Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.
It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:47
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some people are reporting that their kids are taking 10+, 15, and even 20 AP classes. How is this possible? I am looking at my rising 9th grader's schedule and I don't see how you can pack more than about 10 AP classes? They can only take 1 AP class in 9th grade and you can't take, say, AP Biology, from the getgo.
If you read this the college threads, it's clear the parents are fueling this insanity by putting such an overwhelming emphasis on college. And parents on here seem more focused on college admission, rather than anything that comes after.
College is just a 4-year stop in a hopefully very long life. I'm more focused on setting my kid up for what comes after college rather than getting into a selective one with an impressive logo. If they only can get to an impressive logo college by being on a treadmill where they are overwhelming their schedule with APs, competitive sports and extracurriculars and service jobs they will arrive in a state of anxiety. Their will learn that their life is about impressing people and striving/chasing for the next "impressive goal". They'll assume achieving their high goals equates to happiness and will wonder when they get there why they aren't happy. Why they still feel anxiety and depression and constantly compare themselves to their equally high strung peers.
If it seems crazy to you for a kid fit in 10 APs between sophamore and senior years it is because it is crazy and shouldn't happen outside of some exceptional cases where the kid is very gifted and would not be challenged by regular level classes. But instead we have an arms race of crazed parents leading their kids into a crazed cycle of anxiety and comparison. And I've already seen parents on this thread reply with the may ways their kids have fit in 10-15 APs. Sigh.
Thank you. This is an insightful comment many of us on here need to heed.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:46
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.
How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?
Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:44
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Is it TJ? Why not just say so. Of course it isn’t…they don’t implement a rigid AP requirement.
What other sources are there?
I don’t hate public schools…but you can’t reference a ranking that is basically entirely dependent upon AP classes taken…and then think your ranking isn’t basically dependent upon forcing kids to take a lot of AP classes.
What source would appeal to you? Private schools also have rankings im sure, I don’t keep up with the exeters and choates. There’s a ton out there, Newsweek used to be a big one. I’m not sure why I have to defend my child’s high school.
I will take any 3rd party source you have. You claimed there were others.
I’ll say that they’re highly ranked on Niche, the state’s high school ranking board, newsweek( not sure they still do rankings ), etc.
Newsweek hasn’t done rankings in years. I don’t understand why you don’t just name the school…nobody else has a problem saying their kid goes to TJ or Blair Magnet or Sidwell or wherever.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:44
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some people are reporting that their kids are taking 10+, 15, and even 20 AP classes. How is this possible? I am looking at my rising 9th grader's schedule and I don't see how you can pack more than about 10 AP classes? They can only take 1 AP class in 9th grade and you can't take, say, AP Biology, from the getgo.
If you read this the college threads, it's clear the parents are fueling this insanity by putting such an overwhelming emphasis on college. And parents on here seem more focused on college admission, rather than anything that comes after.
College is just a 4-year stop in a hopefully very long life. I'm more focused on setting my kid up for what comes after college rather than getting into a selective one with an impressive logo. If they only can get to an impressive logo college by being on a treadmill where they are overwhelming their schedule with APs, competitive sports and extracurriculars and service jobs they will arrive in a state of anxiety. Their will learn that their life is about impressing people and striving/chasing for the next "impressive goal". They'll assume achieving their high goals equates to happiness and will wonder when they get there why they aren't happy. Why they still feel anxiety and depression and constantly compare themselves to their equally high strung peers.
If it seems crazy to you for a kid fit in 10 APs between sophamore and senior years it is because it is crazy and shouldn't happen outside of some exceptional cases where the kid is very gifted and would not be challenged by regular level classes. But instead we have an arms race of crazed parents leading their kids into a crazed cycle of anxiety and comparison. And I've already seen parents on this thread reply with the may ways their kids have fit in 10-15 APs. Sigh.
If it is crazy for your kid, don't do it. If your kid is overwhelmed by their schedule, do something about it. My kids are not overwhelmed by AP courses. They are choosing the classes that interest them most.
Anonymous
08/13/2024 15:42
Subject: 10+ AP classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.
They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.
I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.
Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.
The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.
Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?
No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.
That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).
You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.
It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.
Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.
The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.
Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.
You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.
Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?
Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.