Anonymous
07/19/2024 20:50
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
I keep seeing BU in this mix. My child accepted to 4 T10s was WL at BU.
BU is not a safety.
BU is not a safety.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 20:46
Subject: Re:What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
My high stats kid didn’t take any schools for granted because of yield protection. Worked well for us, but a friend’s high stats and hooked kid got rejected from 18/20 schools, inc ones ranked in the high 70s, and them got into 2 ivies.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 17:41
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.
For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!
The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.
OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?
OPs stats are at/near the 75% percentile for BU, BC and NEU. They would be competitive for admission. I think they are targets.
Absolute top students shooting for T20 schools can consider them matches, but don't be surprised if they reject you.
You'll probably get into one if you apply to all 4 of them, BU, BC, NEU, Tufts.
+100
Plenty of top students apply to these schools, but that doesn't mean they will get accepted. Even those stats below the top 75% might catch an admissions officer's eye with their extracurriculars, recommendations, or essays.
People often forget that other applicants are just as strong as their own kids, and think it's yield protection when they get rejected.
Tulane and NE both yield protect from our private. It’s completely obvious on the scattergrams because the green checks are smack in the middle, with red checks on the right. For the record, my kid didn’t apply to either, and is at a higher ranked school, so this isn’t sour grapes.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 16:52
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Have you tried plugging in the stats over at College Vine? They'll chance you with a %
Anonymous
07/19/2024 16:47
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
One kid I know with those stats ended up at Barrett Honors College at Arizona State. He wanted to go to MIT. Now loving Arizona and aiming for grad school at MIT.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 16:47
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.
For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!
The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.
OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?
OPs stats are at/near the 75% percentile for BU, BC and NEU. They would be competitive for admission. I think they are targets.
Absolute top students shooting for T20 schools can consider them matches, but don't be surprised if they reject you.
You'll probably get into one if you apply to all 4 of them, BU, BC, NEU, Tufts.
+100
Plenty of top students apply to these schools, but that doesn't mean they will get accepted. Even those stats below the top 75% might catch an admissions officer's eye with their extracurriculars, recommendations, or essays.
People often forget that other applicants are just as strong as their own kids, and think it's yield protection when they get rejected.
Yup! It couldn't possibly be that there are 96K+ applicants and 4-5K spots (including non-Boston for NEU) at NEU. Willing to bet that at least 60-70K of those make the "academic cut" (high enough SAT/GPA). after that it's a crap shoot.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 16:29
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.
For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!
The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.
OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?
OPs stats are at/near the 75% percentile for BU, BC and NEU. They would be competitive for admission. I think they are targets.
Absolute top students shooting for T20 schools can consider them matches, but don't be surprised if they reject you.
You'll probably get into one if you apply to all 4 of them, BU, BC, NEU, Tufts.
That's why they are called matches. Applicant profile matches those that are accepted, however there is never a guarantee. A "surprise" denial is a safety.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 16:11
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:CMU - other than CS
Ha yes, my CS major DC had higher stats than that and was rejected, including Cal, Stanford, UCLA, and even GA Tech.
How can these stats be higher?
4.0, 1600, 12 APs with all 5s.
she said SAT was >1550, 10+APs
She doesn’t know his SAT or number of APs.
My kid is 3.2+, 1200+, and 2+ APs with all 2+.
HYP here we come!
Anonymous
07/19/2024 15:15
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.
For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!
The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.
OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?
OPs stats are at/near the 75% percentile for BU, BC and NEU. They would be competitive for admission. I think they are targets.
Absolute top students shooting for T20 schools can consider them matches, but don't be surprised if they reject you.
You'll probably get into one if you apply to all 4 of them, BU, BC, NEU, Tufts.
+100
Plenty of top students apply to these schools, but that doesn't mean they will get accepted. Even those stats below the top 75% might catch an admissions officer's eye with their extracurriculars, recommendations, or essays.
People often forget that other applicants are just as strong as their own kids, and think it's yield protection when they get rejected.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 14:58
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Anonymous wrote:My son with ivy stats did:
Safety: 2 state schools + 2 privates that gave fee wavers and have >40% acceptance rates. Accepted by all with $$$
Target: Northeastern, Rochester, UT Austin, UVA (in-state). Accepted by all with $$$
Reach: 4 ivies, Duke, Northwestern. Accepted by 2 ivies, Duke, and Northwestern with no $$$
Enrolled at Duke
Everyone keeps picking Duke over ivies and as a UMD fan it bothers me
Anonymous
07/19/2024 11:52
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Safety - UNC (instate) and another state’s flagship (full-ride)
Target- Wake Forest (semi-finalist for full-ride but didn’t get), UVA (oos accepted, maybe more of a low reach)
Reaches - lots as knew UNC would be backup, a few rejections, a handful of waitlists and a handful of acceptances.
Attending an Ivy
Target- Wake Forest (semi-finalist for full-ride but didn’t get), UVA (oos accepted, maybe more of a low reach)
Reaches - lots as knew UNC would be backup, a few rejections, a handful of waitlists and a handful of acceptances.
Attending an Ivy
Anonymous
07/19/2024 11:47
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Pitt sounds like a great fit and would be a true safety as long as he applies this fall (at some point they do fill up and put high stats kids on the wait list, rather than “branching” them.
Honors application typically due Dec 1.
Pitt Honors would give him a great experience.
Honors application typically due Dec 1.
Pitt Honors would give him a great experience.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 11:35
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
My son with ivy stats did:
Safety: 2 state schools + 2 privates that gave fee wavers and have >40% acceptance rates. Accepted by all with $$$
Target: Northeastern, Rochester, UT Austin, UVA (in-state). Accepted by all with $$$
Reach: 4 ivies, Duke, Northwestern. Accepted by 2 ivies, Duke, and Northwestern with no $$$
Enrolled at Duke
Safety: 2 state schools + 2 privates that gave fee wavers and have >40% acceptance rates. Accepted by all with $$$
Target: Northeastern, Rochester, UT Austin, UVA (in-state). Accepted by all with $$$
Reach: 4 ivies, Duke, Northwestern. Accepted by 2 ivies, Duke, and Northwestern with no $$$
Enrolled at Duke
Anonymous
07/19/2024 11:23
Subject: What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.
For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!
The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.
OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?
OPs stats are at/near the 75% percentile for BU, BC and NEU. They would be competitive for admission. I think they are targets.
Absolute top students shooting for T20 schools can consider them matches, but don't be surprised if they reject you.
You'll probably get into one if you apply to all 4 of them, BU, BC, NEU, Tufts.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 11:20
Subject: Re:What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA
Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.
From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.
NE yield protects.
Almost all highly selective schools below T10 yield manage and have ED1 ED2 etc.