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Anonymous wrote:How are the Basis kids doing on the AP calc exam? If most of the kids are scoring 4 or 5, then they're not "superficially" advanced.

Basis kids generally refuse to take AP exams unless they believe they’ll pass. So what you really want to know is what % take the exam. But only Basis knows the answer to that question, and there’s no reason for them to tell us.

What is your source? As a BASIS family I can tell you this isn’t how it works.

Someone posted on here that at Basis, the AP score affects your final grade, so taking an AP you don’t expect to pass means voluntarily trashing your GPA. But you say that’s not true?

No, that is 100 percent true. Your grade in an AP class in June is not final. It is revised to reflect your AP score.

My point is that people are making statements without support to back them up. It’s abundantly clear that poster is not a BASIS family b/c kids are not refusing to take the AP to keep their GPAs up.

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Anonymous wrote:How are the Basis kids doing on the AP calc exam? If most of the kids are scoring 4 or 5, then they're not "superficially" advanced.

Basis kids generally refuse to take AP exams unless they believe they’ll pass. So what you really want to know is what % take the exam. But only Basis knows the answer to that question, and there’s no reason for them to tell us.

What is your source? As a BASIS family I can tell you this isn’t how it works.

Someone posted on here that at Basis, the AP score affects your final grade, so taking an AP you don’t expect to pass means voluntarily trashing your GPA. But you say that’s not true?

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Anonymous wrote:How are the Basis kids doing on the AP calc exam? If most of the kids are scoring 4 or 5, then they're not "superficially" advanced.

Basis kids generally refuse to take AP exams unless they believe they’ll pass. So what you really want to know is what % take the exam. But only Basis knows the answer to that question, and there’s no reason for them to tell us.

What is your source? As a BASIS family I can tell you this isn’t how it works.

Anonymous wrote:How are the Basis kids doing on the AP calc exam? If most of the kids are scoring 4 or 5, then they're not "superficially" advanced.

Basis kids generally refuse to take AP exams unless they believe they’ll pass. So what you really want to know is what % take the exam. But only Basis knows the answer to that question, and there’s no reason for them to tell us.

How are the Basis kids doing on the AP calc exam? If most of the kids are scoring 4 or 5, then they're not "superficially" advanced.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

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75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

No. BASIS' math track looks very similar to the Advanced track at suburban schools. The difference is that BASIS allows everyone who gets in a chance to do it (rather than testing in).

Wrong. BASIS gives math placement tests and requires good grades in prerequisites for acceleration. Everybody certainly doesn't get a chance to accelerate within their math sequence. Delusional to think that this is the case.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

No. BASIS' math track looks very similar to the Advanced track at suburban schools. The difference is that BASIS allows everyone who gets in a chance to do it (rather than testing in).

What do you know about math acceleration in suburban schools, or acceleration in general for that matter? It's BS that middle and high school kids can't accelerate in math in the burbs without testing into specific GT programs. I know that BASIS parents love to believe this (I was once one), but it's nonsense. Ask around and read up.
There are always multiple pathways to math acceleration in MoCo, Arlington, Fairfax etc. including placement tests, standardized state test scores, grades in prerequisites, summer programs. You don't have a clue.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

No. BASIS' math track looks very similar to the Advanced track at suburban schools. The difference is that BASIS allows everyone who gets in a chance to do it (rather than testing in).

BASIS’s math track looks superficially like the advanced track at a handful of suburban schools, yes. But are the kids really learning the math? That’s the question. Algebra I PARCC scores out of Basis suggest most kids there are over accelerated.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

No. BASIS' math track looks very similar to the Advanced track at suburban schools. The difference is that BASIS allows everyone who gets in a chance to do it (rather than testing in).

Isn’t this conversation getting into the weeds? Math Olympiad team, perfect scores on BC Calc- this is very very small number of students.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

Why does it have to be superficial advancement? There are kids who are pretty advanced in math. Where do you think the US IMO teams and other Olympiad teams come from?

You are joking right? The US IMO and Olympiad kids are not getting on the team from just public school math. They are supplementing and doing all kinds of outside programs.

Public school math is superficial advancement. It’s the easy way out for higher performing kids rather than going deep.

This makes no sense. If the kid is already performing at an Olympiad level the by definition the kid is ‘going ‘deep’. Most of Olympiad math is precalculus level, which these kids have mastered by 6th grade. So what else is the kid who is in public school to do but to go ahead? Calculus is not that hard. Even stupid parlor trick stuff like in Putnam. Formal analysis like measure theory is hard but no school public or private is covering that. In any case most Olympiad kids I know aren’t supplementing. Just working thru past problems and discussing among themselves. Two of them got perfect scores in BC in 9th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

Why does it have to be superficial advancement? There are kids who are pretty advanced in math. Where do you think the US IMO teams and other Olympiad teams come from?

You are joking right? The US IMO and Olympiad kids are not getting on the team from just public school math. They are supplementing and doing all kinds of outside programs.

Public school math is superficial advancement. It’s the easy way out for higher performing kids rather than going deep.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

Many kids I know do have a solid foundation and so the advancement isn't rushed. But because BASIS is a lottery school, there are kids that are missing that foundation and don't work to get it.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

Why does it have to be superficial advancement? There are kids who are pretty advanced in math. Where do you think the US IMO teams and other Olympiad teams come from?

Of course there’s the occasional outlier, but most acceleration is superficial.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th.

How many do that? Zero

More than zero.

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level.

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader. I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.

This whole superficial advancement is not that great. Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement. That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public.

Why does it have to be superficial advancement? There are kids who are pretty advanced in math. Where do you think the US IMO teams and other Olympiad teams come from?