Anonymous wrote:Ivy, perfect grades gap year before law school. Founded group at College. Two Congressional internships, think tank intern, and advocacy group intern. Looking for public policy obviously. Rejected from congressional staff he worked for (was in final 3--tough decision etc.). Rejected today from political group. Has one more think tank (highly prestigious) left. Hoping and praying. Seems bad out there.

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Anonymous wrote:The CS folks should consider heading out to SF. My kid had multiple offers from AI companies…and says firms are poaching employees like crazy. ML background.

Also, surprisingly cheap to rent in SF proper…much cheaper than renting in Palo Alto or Mountain View (all the AI companies are in SF proper so not an issue).

agree. Gotta go where the jobs are. Most great tech jobs are still in the SV.

Absolutely crazy competitive for tech in SV with few entry level jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:The CS folks should consider heading out to SF. My kid had multiple offers from AI companies…and says firms are poaching employees like crazy. ML background.

Also, surprisingly cheap to rent in SF proper…much cheaper than renting in Palo Alto or Mountain View (all the AI companies are in SF proper so not an issue).

What do you consider surprisingly cheap?

$1500/month for a 1BR in a fairly decent/trendy part of town...cheaper if you want to live in the financial district which is dead these days. Kids living in NYC are paying $4,000+ in order to get a decent 1BR place.

Seems even relatively cheap for DC.

I’ve never seen prices like that in the bay. Usually you aren’t living in San Francisco for tech, but the company towns- Mountain View, Cupertino, mento park….those places are very expensive. 1500 for most of SF gets you a 1 “br”- as in its a converted closet

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Anonymous wrote:Some university parents seem shy. DC graduated this year from Harvard in econ and went straight into a think tank as a research associate, definitely wouldn't have been achievable without the alumni network.

What does the parent have to do with this?

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Anonymous wrote:The CS folks should consider heading out to SF. My kid had multiple offers from AI companies…and says firms are poaching employees like crazy. ML background.

Also, surprisingly cheap to rent in SF proper…much cheaper than renting in Palo Alto or Mountain View (all the AI companies are in SF proper so not an issue).

What do you consider surprisingly cheap?

$1500/month for a 1BR in a fairly decent/trendy part of town...cheaper if you want to live in the financial district which is dead these days. Kids living in NYC are paying $4,000+ in order to get a decent 1BR place.

Seems even relatively cheap for DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Some university parents seem shy. DC graduated this year from Harvard in econ and went straight into a think tank as a research associate, definitely wouldn't have been achievable without the alumni network.

What does the parent have to do with this?

I think pp is referring to the fact that few big university parents seem to be chiming in - mostly SLAC parents.

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Anonymous wrote:The CS folks should consider heading out to SF. My kid had multiple offers from AI companies…and says firms are poaching employees like crazy. ML background.

Also, surprisingly cheap to rent in SF proper…much cheaper than renting in Palo Alto or Mountain View (all the AI companies are in SF proper so not an issue).

What do you consider surprisingly cheap?

Anonymous wrote:Twins
DS1: Swarthmore, Art History Major, 4.0w/ all the awards, going into investment banking with a firm he interned for junior year
DS2: UVA, CS Major, 3.9w/all the awards, currently no job and applying like mad, past internship with Tesla
You can imagine my shock

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Anonymous wrote:Daughter just graduated with a history major from a SLAC. She just started a job at cybersecurity company as a consultant. She interned with the company in DC last year. Not all interns received offers. Her ability to write was probably a very important factor.

Fascinating. SLAC again

No, nothing fascinating about a graduate of a small college landing a job--unless, of course, your job is to promote LACs.

If anything it reflects the forum’s interest. There’s a big UVA/W&M/LAC culture here. Sometimes my eyes light up when the typical elite universities come up, because they’re becoming a rarity of conversation

Agree.

Websites with college boards seem to be dominated by LAC marketers. Nothing wrong about reading the LAC hype, but readers miss out on the tremendous variety of offerings and options available at large universities--both public and private.

If interested in a particular major, visit the website of a Big Ten university and investigate the courses, programs, research opportunities, internship/externship opportunities, job placement, etc. You might be pleasantly surprised.

LAC folks just seem to have a lot of time on their hands and resort, unnecessarily, to making exaggerated and often false assertions.

Whether one prefers a small school or a big university, the key is to take advantage of the opportunities offered.

Random pointed anger at “LAC folks”…

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Anonymous wrote:The CS folks should consider heading out to SF. My kid had multiple offers from AI companies…and says firms are poaching employees like crazy. ML background.

Also, surprisingly cheap to rent in SF proper…much cheaper than renting in Palo Alto or Mountain View (all the AI companies are in SF proper so not an issue).

agree. Gotta go where the jobs are. Most great tech jobs are still in the SV.

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Anonymous wrote:Daughter just graduated with a history major from a SLAC. She just started a job at cybersecurity company as a consultant. She interned with the company in DC last year. Not all interns received offers. Her ability to write was probably a very important factor.

Fascinating. SLAC again

No, nothing fascinating about a graduate of a small college landing a job--unless, of course, your job is to promote LACs.

If anything it reflects the forum’s interest. There’s a big UVA/W&M/LAC culture here. Sometimes my eyes light up when the typical elite universities come up, because they’re becoming a rarity of conversation

Agree.

Websites with college boards seem to be dominated by LAC marketers. Nothing wrong about reading the LAC hype, but readers miss out on the tremendous variety of offerings and options available at large universities--both public and private.

If interested in a particular major, visit the website of a Big Ten university and investigate the courses, programs, research opportunities, internship/externship opportunities, job placement, etc. You might be pleasantly surprised.

LAC folks just seem to have a lot of time on their hands and resort, unnecessarily, to making exaggerated and often false assertions.

Whether one prefers a small school or a big university, the key is to take advantage of the opportunities offered.

I went to a university and so did all 3 of my college-aged children, but i think the “discovery” of other majors is pretty exaggerated. Most American students are covered by the 40 or so majors at a liberal arts college. You lose out on like sports management or non-Econ business at some schools, but they aren’t really necessary things to study. Sure there’s a lot more of things, but there’s a lot more undergrads, and grad students and post docs. The class options are immense; but, many students don’t really take anything overly advanced that would take an LAC out of the picture.

This was longer than I wanted it, but I’ve seen a lot of “fed up” university parents make some pretty unfair comments about LACs

As I noted above, you missed the point of the post that you quoted.

I don’t get why every post has to be a measuring contest between liberal arts colleges and large universities. It’s literally just people going “this place is small” “ok well this place is BIG, how bout that” “well, you actually don’t know how amazing it is to be SMALL.” Just pick the college you want.

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Anonymous wrote:Some university parents seem shy. DC graduated this year from Harvard in econ and went straight into a think tank as a research associate, definitely wouldn't have been achievable without the alumni network.

What does the parent have to do with this?

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Anonymous wrote:Daughter just graduated with a history major from a SLAC. She just started a job at cybersecurity company as a consultant. She interned with the company in DC last year. Not all interns received offers. Her ability to write was probably a very important factor.

Fascinating. SLAC again

No, nothing fascinating about a graduate of a small college landing a job--unless, of course, your job is to promote LACs.

If anything it reflects the forum’s interest. There’s a big UVA/W&M/LAC culture here. Sometimes my eyes light up when the typical elite universities come up, because they’re becoming a rarity of conversation

Agree.

Websites with college boards seem to be dominated by LAC marketers. Nothing wrong about reading the LAC hype, but readers miss out on the tremendous variety of offerings and options available at large universities--both public and private.

If interested in a particular major, visit the website of a Big Ten university and investigate the courses, programs, research opportunities, internship/externship opportunities, job placement, etc. You might be pleasantly surprised.

LAC folks just seem to have a lot of time on their hands and resort, unnecessarily, to making exaggerated and often false assertions.

Whether one prefers a small school or a big university, the key is to take advantage of the opportunities offered.

I went to a university and so did all 3 of my college-aged children, but i think the “discovery” of other majors is pretty exaggerated. Most American students are covered by the 40 or so majors at a liberal arts college. You lose out on like sports management or non-Econ business at some schools, but they aren’t really necessary things to study. Sure there’s a lot more of things, but there’s a lot more undergrads, and grad students and post docs. The class options are immense; but, many students don’t really take anything overly advanced that would take an LAC out of the picture.

This was longer than I wanted it, but I’ve seen a lot of “fed up” university parents make some pretty unfair comments about LACs

As I noted above, you missed the point of the post that you quoted.

Anonymous wrote:Did not refer to the "discovery of other majors" (which is another benefit of attending a large school). Post referred to learning of myriad of options & benefits available within the particular major of interest.

An example: psychology majors have the option of pursuing any of four different tracks at one major university.