Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I took a couple classes as an adult at NOVA after already having a 4 year degree at both Annandale and Alexandria campuses.
As a parent, I wouldn’t allow my child to attend NOVA but we did look at some other 2 year community colleges besides NOVA that had slightly better outcomes and a more traditional full time student population.
The classes are not on par with a 4 yr college classes. The classes at the 100 level were what you would expect at the high school level. By the 3rd week at least half the class had stopped showing up. Talking to those in the class a lot of them worked and just choose work over school. And then some were really struggling bc English was not their first language I think very few students are going full time and focusing solely on school.
Check your privilege. This likely wasn't a "choice"
Anonymous wrote:The average community college is full of dregs of society; felons, registered sex offenders, drug addicts, kids who finished in the very bottom of their public high school, and many who never even graduated from high school. Anyone can sign up for community college courses; 80-90% are just there to waste their time and steal financial aid refunds.
Why would you put your teen, in the prime of their life, in such a setting? How is that an inspiring, competitive, or uplifting ethos?
You going to be thrilled when your gullible son comes home and tells you his new girlfriend is some tatted up stripper he met in sociology 101? Or your daughter tells you her new boyfriend is some drug dealer she met in the community college cafeteria?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The average community college is full of dregs of society; felons, registered sex offenders, drug addicts, kids who finished in the very bottom of their public high school, and many who never even graduated from high school. Anyone can sign up for community college courses; 80-90% are just there to waste their time and steal financial aid refunds.
Why would you put your teen, in the prime of their life, in such a setting? How is that an inspiring, competitive, or uplifting ethos?
You going to be thrilled when your gullible son comes home and tells you his new girlfriend is some tatted up stripper he met in sociology 101? Or your daughter tells you her new boyfriend is some drug dealer she met in the community college cafeteria?
This forum sometimes makes me think the communists were right.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For me, it depends on the person. For my super social, can thrive any where niece, I recommended CC. For my cousin who has enough in her 529 for in state and 2 years room and board, I suggested the flag ship with the first two years on campus.
Once you graduate, it won't matter, but the environment and growth on the path to graduation has impact and matters.
You don't let mom and dad handle the "advice"?
Anonymous wrote:I took a couple classes as an adult at NOVA after already having a 4 year degree at both Annandale and Alexandria campuses.
As a parent, I wouldn’t allow my child to attend NOVA but we did look at some other 2 year community colleges besides NOVA that had slightly better outcomes and a more traditional full time student population.
The classes are not on par with a 4 yr college classes. The classes at the 100 level were what you would expect at the high school level. By the 3rd week at least half the class had stopped showing up. Talking to those in the class a lot of them worked and just choose work over school. And then some were really struggling bc English was not their first language I think very few students are going full time and focusing solely on school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.
First start with your premise. First of all most do not end up transferring. A lot of the degrees offered at community colleges are terminal degrees.
Maybe 10% of community college students ever finish a four-year bachelor's degree. This idea community colleges are full of savvy smart kids taking cheap courses before they transfer to the state flagship is an absurd internet message board fabrication.
I agree with you, but I'd be curious to see hard stats. Do you have them?
I'm not your gofer. Just poke around government scorecard.
In PP's defense, you did make the claim, so the burden should be on you. Unless of course you pulled that out of you a$$ and can't back it up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.
First start with your premise. First of all most do not end up transferring. A lot of the degrees offered at community colleges are terminal degrees.
Maybe 10% of community college students ever finish a four-year bachelor's degree. This idea community colleges are full of savvy smart kids taking cheap courses before they transfer to the state flagship is an absurd internet message board fabrication.
I agree with you, but I'd be curious to see hard stats. Do you have them?
I'm not your gofer. Just poke around government scorecard.