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Anonymous wrote:This thread is absurd
The Top 3 states for highest child literacy rates were Massachusetts, Maryland, and New Hampshire, in that order (highest to lowest). The Bottom 3 states for child literacy rates were Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico, (highest to lowest).
www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com
Literacy Statistics 2022-2023

No Mississippi is not ahead of md in anything related to education

The link you added doesn’t include citations so I can’t see what they are using. But the Maryland Reads report uses NAEP scores and the Nation’s Report Card. Here is another article: https://marylandmatters.org/2023/12/19/former-mississippi-schools-chief-aims-to-repeat-learning-miracle-in-maryland/. Mississippi has improved dramatically in the last decade.

DP
You mean test scores from about 2,000 students, mostly poor kids from Baltimore and surroundings? Come again!

Using the MCAP, about half of MCPS students aren’t proficient in literacy.

What's the relevancy of your post to the subject or the quoted posts?

The poster thought it was the poor Baltimore City students dragging down the MCAP scores but half of MCPS aren't proficient on MCAP so stop blaming others.

Reading comprehension is not your forte, either.
The subject is not about MCAP and the quoted posts were not about MCAP. They were about the NAEP scores, which are mainly from Baltimore and surroundings.
And MCPS scores on MCAP are among the highest, while Baltimore's are in the bottom in MD.

Of course they are. Standardized test scores have always followed parental income levels.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is absurd
The Top 3 states for highest child literacy rates were Massachusetts, Maryland, and New Hampshire, in that order (highest to lowest). The Bottom 3 states for child literacy rates were Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico, (highest to lowest).
www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com
Literacy Statistics 2022-2023

No Mississippi is not ahead of md in anything related to education

The link you added doesn’t include citations so I can’t see what they are using. But the Maryland Reads report uses NAEP scores and the Nation’s Report Card. Here is another article: https://marylandmatters.org/2023/12/19/former-mississippi-schools-chief-aims-to-repeat-learning-miracle-in-maryland/. Mississippi has improved dramatically in the last decade.

DP
You mean test scores from about 2,000 students, mostly poor kids from Baltimore and surroundings? Come again!

Using the MCAP, about half of MCPS students aren’t proficient in literacy.

What's the relevancy of your post to the subject or the quoted posts?

The poster thought it was the poor Baltimore City students dragging down the MCAP scores but half of MCPS aren't proficient on MCAP so stop blaming others.

Reading comprehension is not your forte, either.
The subject is not about MCAP and the quoted posts were not about MCAP. They were about the NAEP scores, which are mainly from Baltimore and surroundings.
And MCPS scores on MCAP are among the highest, while Baltimore's are in the bottom in MD.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is absurd
The Top 3 states for highest child literacy rates were Massachusetts, Maryland, and New Hampshire, in that order (highest to lowest). The Bottom 3 states for child literacy rates were Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico, (highest to lowest).
www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com
Literacy Statistics 2022-2023

No Mississippi is not ahead of md in anything related to education

The link you added doesn’t include citations so I can’t see what they are using. But the Maryland Reads report uses NAEP scores and the Nation’s Report Card. Here is another article: https://marylandmatters.org/2023/12/19/former-mississippi-schools-chief-aims-to-repeat-learning-miracle-in-maryland/. Mississippi has improved dramatically in the last decade.

DP
You mean test scores from about 2,000 students, mostly poor kids from Baltimore and surroundings? Come again!

Using the MCAP, about half of MCPS students aren’t proficient in literacy.

What's the relevancy of your post to the subject or the quoted posts?

The poster thought it was the poor Baltimore City students dragging down the MCAP scores but half of MCPS aren't proficient on MCAP so stop blaming others.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is absurd
The Top 3 states for highest child literacy rates were Massachusetts, Maryland, and New Hampshire, in that order (highest to lowest). The Bottom 3 states for child literacy rates were Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico, (highest to lowest).
www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com
Literacy Statistics 2022-2023

No Mississippi is not ahead of md in anything related to education

The link you added doesn’t include citations so I can’t see what they are using. But the Maryland Reads report uses NAEP scores and the Nation’s Report Card. Here is another article: https://marylandmatters.org/2023/12/19/former-mississippi-schools-chief-aims-to-repeat-learning-miracle-in-maryland/. Mississippi has improved dramatically in the last decade.

DP
You mean test scores from about 2,000 students, mostly poor kids from Baltimore and surroundings? Come again!

Using the MCAP, about half of MCPS students aren’t proficient in literacy.

What's the relevancy of your post to the subject or the quoted posts?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is absurd
The Top 3 states for highest child literacy rates were Massachusetts, Maryland, and New Hampshire, in that order (highest to lowest). The Bottom 3 states for child literacy rates were Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico, (highest to lowest).
www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com
Literacy Statistics 2022-2023

No Mississippi is not ahead of md in anything related to education

The link you added doesn’t include citations so I can’t see what they are using. But the Maryland Reads report uses NAEP scores and the Nation’s Report Card. Here is another article: https://marylandmatters.org/2023/12/19/former-mississippi-schools-chief-aims-to-repeat-learning-miracle-in-maryland/. Mississippi has improved dramatically in the last decade.

DP
You mean test scores from about 2,000 students, mostly poor kids from Baltimore and surroundings? Come again!

Using the MCAP, about half of MCPS students aren’t proficient in literacy.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone actually read the draft? I am a teacher. I am a third grade teacher. It is saying that students must read at or above grade level at the end of third grade in order to be promoted to fourth grade. It needs to be demonstrated by an assessment. If they do not show they are at or above grade level then they repeat third grade. My students last year came in VERY low and they left VERY low. 60 percent of my students left third grade below grade level in Reading. How do we retain that many students? Are parents ok with retaining their child in third grade? Students at that age know and will talk about the students that are retained because they won’t be in their grade next year. I am not sure I like this plan. There will be so much pressure on a child to do well on a test in third grade in order to pass to the next grade.

Schools should be able to teach kids to read by third grade. They chose to abdicate that responsibility and a lot of kids are suffering. There has to be some incentive to actually teach kids how to read. Of course, this answer may not be practical but the impact of failing kids like this should not be understated or compared to hurting their feelings by holding them back.

I teach kindergarten and the only students I have that read below grade level fall into these groups (in order of the number of numbers): 1) chronically absent (about 30-35% of this year's students), 2) students who clearly have intellectual or learning problems, 3) severe behavior issues. The biggest group are the chronically absent students and when all of my students live within walking distance, this is a parenting issue. Ditto for most (if not all ) of the behavior issues.

And all the data should start to match this. #2 can be helped with appropriate in school intervention and resources.#3 requires counseling and social work support along with parent involvement. #1 is a parent/guardian issue.

Right but that first group is something like 30% of students in the state of Maryland! That's a lot of kids.

So we should just keep moving that 30% along hoping they can both catchup AND keep up as the material gets increasing more difficult ??? Explicitly teach foundational skills of reading and math and show how they are used in science, social studies, art and music starting in K. Start with high expectations and never let up. If families can’t be bothered to attend school(for whatever reason) then they can’t be surprised when their kid doesn’t make progress, is held back and eventually sent to a separate class/school/program. Everyone deserves a free quality public education. That doesn’t mean it will be catered to their every whim and desire. The standard is that by end of third students should be moving on from this foundational level. If not, that doesn’t mean you’ll never get it, but it does mean you need more time and attention before moving on to the next thing.

I’m sick of this BS that it’s too hard. There are folks addressing education in war zones under threat of bombs and gunfire in classrooms writing on walls with no desk and chairs.

Fine but we will all pay for it in higher taxes when thousands of students will be held back. I highly doubt they’ll do this because it leads to higher drop out rates and they don’t want that.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone actually read the draft? I am a teacher. I am a third grade teacher. It is saying that students must read at or above grade level at the end of third grade in order to be promoted to fourth grade. It needs to be demonstrated by an assessment. If they do not show they are at or above grade level then they repeat third grade. My students last year came in VERY low and they left VERY low. 60 percent of my students left third grade below grade level in Reading. How do we retain that many students? Are parents ok with retaining their child in third grade? Students at that age know and will talk about the students that are retained because they won’t be in their grade next year. I am not sure I like this plan. There will be so much pressure on a child to do well on a test in third grade in order to pass to the next grade.

Schools should be able to teach kids to read by third grade. They chose to abdicate that responsibility and a lot of kids are suffering. There has to be some incentive to actually teach kids how to read. Of course, this answer may not be practical but the impact of failing kids like this should not be understated or compared to hurting their feelings by holding them back.

I teach kindergarten and the only students I have that read below grade level fall into these groups (in order of the number of numbers): 1) chronically absent (about 30-35% of this year's students), 2) students who clearly have intellectual or learning problems, 3) severe behavior issues. The biggest group are the chronically absent students and when all of my students live within walking distance, this is a parenting issue. Ditto for most (if not all ) of the behavior issues.

And all the data should start to match this. #2 can be helped with appropriate in school intervention and resources.#3 requires counseling and social work support along with parent involvement. #1 is a parent/guardian issue.

Right but that first group is something like 30% of students in the state of Maryland! That's a lot of kids.

So we should just keep moving that 30% along hoping they can both catchup AND keep up as the material gets increasing more difficult ??? Explicitly teach foundational skills of reading and math and show how they are used in science, social studies, art and music starting in K. Start with high expectations and never let up. If families can’t be bothered to attend school(for whatever reason) then they can’t be surprised when their kid doesn’t make progress, is held back and eventually sent to a separate class/school/program. Everyone deserves a free quality public education. That doesn’t mean it will be catered to their every whim and desire. The standard is that by end of third students should be moving on from this foundational level. If not, that doesn’t mean you’ll never get it, but it does mean you need more time and attention before moving on to the next thing.

I’m sick of this BS that it’s too hard. There are folks addressing education in war zones under threat of bombs and gunfire in classrooms writing on walls with no desk and chairs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is absurd
The Top 3 states for highest child literacy rates were Massachusetts, Maryland, and New Hampshire, in that order (highest to lowest). The Bottom 3 states for child literacy rates were Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico, (highest to lowest).
www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com
Literacy Statistics 2022-2023

No Mississippi is not ahead of md in anything related to education

The link you added doesn’t include citations so I can’t see what they are using. But the Maryland Reads report uses NAEP scores and the Nation’s Report Card. Here is another article: https://marylandmatters.org/2023/12/19/former-mississippi-schools-chief-aims-to-repeat-learning-miracle-in-maryland/. Mississippi has improved dramatically in the last decade.

DP
You mean test scores from about 2,000 students, mostly poor kids from Baltimore and surroundings? Come again!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone actually read the draft? I am a teacher. I am a third grade teacher. It is saying that students must read at or above grade level at the end of third grade in order to be promoted to fourth grade. It needs to be demonstrated by an assessment. If they do not show they are at or above grade level then they repeat third grade. My students last year came in VERY low and they left VERY low. 60 percent of my students left third grade below grade level in Reading. How do we retain that many students? Are parents ok with retaining their child in third grade? Students at that age know and will talk about the students that are retained because they won’t be in their grade next year. I am not sure I like this plan. There will be so much pressure on a child to do well on a test in third grade in order to pass to the next grade.

Schools should be able to teach kids to read by third grade. They chose to abdicate that responsibility and a lot of kids are suffering. There has to be some incentive to actually teach kids how to read. Of course, this answer may not be practical but the impact of failing kids like this should not be understated or compared to hurting their feelings by holding them back.

I teach kindergarten and the only students I have that read below grade level fall into these groups (in order of the number of numbers): 1) chronically absent (about 30-35% of this year's students), 2) students who clearly have intellectual or learning problems, 3) severe behavior issues. The biggest group are the chronically absent students and when all of my students live within walking distance, this is a parenting issue. Ditto for most (if not all ) of the behavior issues.

And all the data should start to match this. #2 can be helped with appropriate in school intervention and resources.#3 requires counseling and social work support along with parent involvement. #1 is a parent/guardian issue.

Right but that first group is something like 30% of students in the state of Maryland! That's a lot of kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is absurd
The Top 3 states for highest child literacy rates were Massachusetts, Maryland, and New Hampshire, in that order (highest to lowest). The Bottom 3 states for child literacy rates were Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico, (highest to lowest).
www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com
Literacy Statistics 2022-2023

No Mississippi is not ahead of md in anything related to education

The link you added doesn’t include citations so I can’t see what they are using. But the Maryland Reads report uses NAEP scores and the Nation’s Report Card. Here is another article: https://marylandmatters.org/2023/12/19/former-mississippi-schools-chief-aims-to-repeat-learning-miracle-in-maryland/. Mississippi has improved dramatically in the last decade.

Anonymous wrote:This thread is absurd
The Top 3 states for highest child literacy rates were Massachusetts, Maryland, and New Hampshire, in that order (highest to lowest). The Bottom 3 states for child literacy rates were Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico, (highest to lowest).
www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com
Literacy Statistics 2022-2023

No Mississippi is not ahead of md in anything related to education

Anonymous wrote:An English program in Spanish won’t help students learn English. Those supports are also for students with basic English proficiency. Where’s the curriculum for newcomers?

Anonymous wrote:Finally.

This is JUSTICE for dyslexics. MCPS - shame on you all these years. You have blood on your hands (and lots of prisoners in jail) due to inability to weed through the curriculum choices and choose science PHONICS over whole language hucksters looking to make a fast government dollar.

https://blog.parinc.com/dyslexia-in-prisons-eye-opening-statistics

Maryland - you should be taking over a LOT more from these corrupt counties.